What If? 10 plagues of Egypt hit Nazi Germany

ATP said:
Yes,but now he is showing Himself as Jesus,not Jahwe.Or send saints,archangels or Holy Mary.Not copycat old testament.
Enough for christians to say : "nah,there is something else work"
And,in roman times jews were faitfull and lost 3 times,in 1938 most of them in germany lost faith.
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Well you are right about most Jews in the modern age being faithless. Still in this scenario God will do the 40 years in the wilderness trick again if it needs to happen to get them to the promised land and set up a government that actually maintains the commandments.
 
King Arts said:
Well you are right about most Jews in the modern age being faithless. Still in this scenario God will do the 40 years in the wilderness trick again if it needs to happen to get them to the promised land and set up a government that actually maintains the commandments.
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Indeed.Jahwe killed all jews who was not faifull,so in this scenario he would :
1.Made germans let jews go
2.Kill all infidel jews
3.let rest to neew/or old/ Holy Land.

Catholics and other christians would still say" noJesus and Holy Mary? sorry,not our business"
 
ATP said:
Indeed.Jahwe killed all jews who was not faifull,so in this scenario he would :
1.Made germans let jews go
2.Kill all infidel jews
3.let rest to neew/or old/ Holy Land.

Catholics and other christians would still say" noJesus and Holy Mary? sorry,not our business"
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I mean yes and no. Christians would not remain Christians if there was proof of some other God. If Zeus and Hades came back many many people would convert to Greek Paganism.
 
King Arts said:
I mean yes and no. Christians would not remain Christians if there was proof of some other God. If Zeus and Hades came back many many people would convert to Greek Paganism.
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Then it would be demons.Christians have no problem with pagans making miracles thanks to demons.
 
ATP said:
Then it would be demons.Christians have no problem with pagans making miracles thanks to demons.
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Except if you can see Zeusor Hades doing miracles and judging the dead and ruling the afterlife but you don’t see Yahweh/Jesus/Allah. People are gonna stop worshiping him.
 
King Arts said:
Except if you can see Zeusor Hades doing miracles and judging the dead and ruling the afterlife but you don’t see Yahweh/Jesus/Allah. People are gonna stop worshiping him.
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Unless it is technology.I remember fantasy book about world with "gods" who really are descendents of Earth ruling elites using supertechnology,with minority of christians who still say"nay,it is technology" but nobody belive them.
 
ATP said:
Unless it is technology.I remember fantasy book about world with "gods" who really are descendents of Earth ruling elites using supertechnology,with minority of christians who still say"nay,it is technology" but nobody belive them.
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Same argument can apply to the being that calls itself god. If Zeus and Hera can send people to hell people will worship them as gods.
 
ATP said:
Would be.Hitler hated slavic people,too,and Sralin wonted war as pretext to take over Europe.Not mention Wall Street supporting both.
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When God directly intervenes in the world, it has a way of changing people’s perspective on things - including Hitler, Stalin, and their underlings. This event represents such a radical change in the timeline that nothing is certain.
 
ShieldWife said:
When God directly intervenes in the world, it has a way of changing people’s perspective on things - including Hitler, Stalin, and their underlings. This event represents such a radical change in the timeline that nothing is certain.
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Sadly,both were ideologes.For them it would be like : could not kill jews? fine,let kill somebody else in name of Bright Future !
And,since Sralin arleady have a lot of jews in NKWD,he could feel safe.

God in this TL did nothing to save farmers in soviets,after all.Or armenians in Turkey during WW1.Or Herero from germans before WW1.
 
ATP said:
Sadly,both were ideologes.For them it would be like : could not kill jews? fine,let kill somebody else in name of Bright Future !
And,since Sralin arleady have a lot of jews in NKWD,he could feel safe.

God in this TL did nothing to save farmers in soviets,after all.Or armenians in Turkey during WW1.Or Herero from germans before WW1.
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Ideologues can change in the face of true miracles and even if they don’t, their regimes and the people working within them can. How can a regime based on atheistic communism remain unchanged when God has shown himself to the world? How can a regime so deeply Antisemitic as the Nazis remain unchanged when God has openly shown his support for the Jews?

I think that Nazism and Communism would both collapse as ideologies and even the freer and more Christian nations of the world would have to reevaluate their ideologies.

There may be some strife and turmoil ahead, but it will be nothing like WWII as it happened in our world. All priorities change after this event.
 
ShieldWife said:
Ideologues can change in the face of true miracles and even if they don’t, their regimes and the people working within them can. How can a regime based on atheistic communism remain unchanged when God has shown himself to the world? How can a regime so deeply Antisemitic as the Nazis remain unchanged when God has openly shown his support for the Jews?

I think that Nazism and Communism would both collapse as ideologies and even the freer and more Christian nations of the world would have to reevaluate their ideologies.

There may be some strife and turmoil ahead, but it will be nothing like WWII as it happened in our world. All priorities change after this event.
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Nazizm - you are right.

But soviets? why? they genocided christians,not jews,and jews were still part of ruling establishment there.
They could always say,that they always supported Jahwe.
Lie,but so what ? entire system was made on lies , lasted till 1991,and fall becouse of economy,not Jahwe.

Christians - protestants are,like Heine once said,jews who eat pigs,so they would convert,maybe muslim,too.
But normal Christian - why ? catholics never relied on God fighting battles,popes prayed when muslim invaded,but fought them with coalitions of countries created by them.
And we have enough genuine miracles,like Fatima.
Reaction of normal catholic would be "it is not work of God",and we would remain the same.
 
ATP said:
Nazizm - you are right.

But soviets? why? they genocided christians,not jews,and jews were still part of ruling establishment there.
They could always say,that they always supported Jahwe.
Lie,but so what ? entire system was made on lies , lasted till 1991,and fall becouse of economy,not Jahwe.

Christians - protestants are,like Heine once said,jews who eat pigs,so they would convert,maybe muslim,too.
But normal Christian - why ? catholics never relied on God fighting battles,popes prayed when muslim invaded,but fought them with coalitions of countries created by them.
And we have enough genuine miracles,like Fatima.
Reaction of normal catholic would be "it is not work of God",and we would remain the same.
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Jews in Soviet Russia could rise to the top and had disproportionate influence. But those were atheist Jews. They were just Jews by blood. Yes they were racially Jewish but you couldn't be religiously Jewish in the Comunist Party. They also did have things like Synagoges closed down and were discriminated in that way. The thing is it's just if they abandoned their faith they could avoid persecution but if they stuck to it they would still be persecuted.
 
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