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  1. sillygoose

    What if Hitler is out of command in 1944?

    How do you have a 'limited' nuclear war that saves millions of lives? Chemical and bio weapons exist even if the Nazis don't have nukes for a while, plus they have jet aircraft that AAA can't touch due to the speed and don't have a SAM program in the 1950s. The first viable one, which used...
  2. sillygoose

    What if Hitler is out of command in 1944?

    Sorry, real life got busy again and I haven't had time to respond yet. I'm talking about all deaths from all causes, including soldiers during the war. Seeing as they were drafted civilians especially by later in the war I count them as victims of the war. As to what killing the Nazis would...
  3. sillygoose

    What if Hitler is out of command in 1944?

    I think you mean Hamburg. The RAF was fire storming city after city in 1945, Dresden was just one of the worst. There were major and minor firestorms. The major ones were Tokyo, Hamburg, and Dresden. There were a bunch of minor firestorms, especially in 1945...
  4. sillygoose

    What if Hitler is out of command in 1944?

    There were several million deaths in 1945 alone, which made up a pretty major portion of those who died in Europe in WW2. Include 1944 and we're talking probably over 25% of the deaths in Europe in WW2. The Soviets alone took 3 million casualties, about 10% of their official war total, in 1945...
  5. sillygoose

    What if Hitler is out of command in 1944?

    Not the day of due to the weather. Most of their bombing missing that day. And again the 21st Panzer division managed to make it to the shore between Sword and Juno beaches without being stopped by aircraft or naval gun fire. They even withdrew in good order when it was clear there wasn't...
  6. sillygoose

    What if Hitler is out of command in 1944?

    Except he wouldn't be in power ITTL
  7. sillygoose

    What if Hitler is out of command in 1944?

    Probably because Salerno (and Sicily) and Normandy would be a very different situation. At Salerno the Allies were already on shore and moving inland with their artillery set up near the landing zone, the Germans were pushing them back to the beaches when spotters who were set up called a bunch...
  8. sillygoose

    What if Hitler is out of command in 1944?

    Didn't stop them from making deals with Stalin despite him doing just the same thing. Claims of 'well they can't be trusted' has never stopped anyone before when it came to making deals. Plus the US and UK have their own history of treaty breaking...
  9. sillygoose

    What if Hitler is out of command in 1944?

    It could go either way, WAY uglier or actually less bad (overall in terms of body count) due to an early peace deal being cut. If the Allies face enough defeats in 1944, including D-Day being defeated, they could well cut a deal, because when push came to shove the US made conditional deals...
  10. sillygoose

    What if Hitler is out of command in 1944?

    Inspired in part by this paper (I highly recommend reading it; if anyone wants a copy PM me): https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13518046.2015.998134?journalCode=fslv20 What if Hitler suffers an incapacitating injury in a plane crash in late December 1943, leaving him unable to command...
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