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Returning to AH clichés again, I suppose “Carthage Beats Rome!” via victory in the Punic Wars also counts. Not as common as PODs surrounding more recent history, perhaps, but about as oft-suggested as “Julius Caesar Avoids Assassination!” is in Antiquity-centric AH discussion. Even it were to...

"We like to say The Manifesto according to Comrade Marx." — Justin Trudeau, probably. :p

Not denying that, but it’s still not super original. In retrospect, I suppose I may have been inadvertently harsh to AH newbies for whom it’s a useful starting point, so I’ll concede that you have a case there.

Eh, true enough. Concerning AH clichés again, though: ‘Julius Caesar Avoids Assassination’. Seriously, while the consequences certainly have potential, I still can’t get over how overused the POD itself is.

Look, there’s a time and a place for everything. Heck, I even lean more towards your side than I do Christianity or religion in general, since — while I wouldn’t rule out beings or a form of existence beyond what we can currently perceive — I’m not one to spend time dwelling on it at the expense...

*Sighs and rolls eyes.* :cautious: I guess me pointing out how tiring the derail you and @ATP are on is has gone unnoticed. Probably should’ve quoted or tagged you to start with, but really, you’re just wasting space in the wrong thread at this point.

You didn’t read my first paragraph at all, did you? Somewhat agree with you on MacArthur, but otherwise, the derail you three have started on is getting rather annoying.

Right, so if Christians and atheists are quite done bashing each others’ skulls in over religion, here’s another common trope I just thought of: ‘Douglas MacArthur As A Military Dictator’. Not super sure where Hearts of Iron and other AH get that from, exactly, given that he’s spoken favorably...

Not sure, since it hinges on whether JFK escalates in Vietnam like LBJ did. Have heard it claimed that Kennedy was more "cautious" than his successors (especially with the Bay of Pigs fiasco probably haunting him), but find that line of argument somewhat apocryphal — especially with Bobby as a...

Have seen quite a few clichés over the years, but adding to what's been said so far: JFK Lives - Seriously, this one's been done to death over and over again. Granted, I can somewhat empathize with the "martyrdom" aspect that comes with a handsome, vivacious fella like Kennedy being taken out...