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  1. Zyobot

    Religion You are going to die... so let's discuss what we each think happens next.

    Hmm... don't mean to derail or spur a heated debate here, but I don't suppose you've come across a book series called Conversations With God by Neale Donald Walsch before? It was actually authored recently (the 1990s) and expands upon many of the ideas you've posited. Of course, much of what's...
  2. Zyobot

    Religion You are going to die... so let's discuss what we each think happens next.

    You know, the more I think about it, the more the idea of writing some original fiction that builds on Terthna’s ideas really appeals to me. :unsure: I know he already cited What Dreams May Come as his inspiration, but it’s singularly focused on one man’s experience and attempts to reunite with...
  3. Zyobot

    Religion You are going to die... so let's discuss what we each think happens next.

    Another odd thought that came to me last night: who else enters the afterlife? Yes, I know the usual answer is "humans", but seeing as we're not the only ones to die, I wonder if there are other beings that'll be in the afterlife with us? Not just your beloved pet dog or a houseplant you...
  4. Zyobot

    Religion You are going to die... so let's discuss what we each think happens next.

    Bit of a delay here, but if the afterlife is anything like what @Terthna predicts, I honestly wonder what the dead would make of everything that's transpired in the Land of the Living since they left? Personally, I'm inclined to think @Lord Sovereign is correct about the dedicated historians...
  5. Zyobot

    Religion You are going to die... so let's discuss what we each think happens next.

    Thanks. Bit before my time, so I was too young to watch it in theaters (though I may watch it later on). All in all, pretty fascinating, and certainly more appealing to me than losing my individuality via reincarnation or losing everything via oblivion. Still, it'd pose a real existential...
  6. Zyobot

    Religion You are going to die... so let's discuss what we each think happens next.

    Thanks, man. You worded my point more clearly than I did, so hopefully, the discussion will rekindle itself. Otherwise, your idea of our souls shedding the limitations of our bodies and being able to explore the totality of existence actually appeals to me more than "mainstream" conceptions of...
  7. Zyobot

    Religion You are going to die... so let's discuss what we each think happens next.

    Except you're still assuming the material world is all there is for us, without addressing what I'm actually asking. What I'm talking about is a different plane of existence other than the one we're aware of, not just being unaware of what's going on in the material world (as we are when...
  8. Zyobot

    Religion You are going to die... so let's discuss what we each think happens next.

    You continue to repeat the same assertions, but don't really answer my question at all. In which case, how about I try and word it this way, and ask why you believe that the physical reality we can perceive must necessarily be the totality of reality? Biological processes definitely happen, but...
  9. Zyobot

    Religion You are going to die... so let's discuss what we each think happens next.

    As far as we know for sure, that is. I suppose my question for you, then, is why you believe the material plane is all there is for us? So far, you've answered by repeating that the processes that sustain our bodies cease, but that's not what I'm asking. What I'm asking you is why you assume a...
  10. Zyobot

    Religion You are going to die... so let's discuss what we each think happens next.

    Our body definitely fails when we die, but again, you're assuming material existence is all there is to us. We may not have evidence of an afterlife, but just because we can't perceive or study it, doesn't mean that there simply isn't one. After all, the Romans didn't know about germs, and...
  11. Zyobot

    Religion You are going to die... so let's discuss what we each think happens next.

    We don't have evidence, either way, though. Besides, why do you think the fact we have no memory of existence before our conception is an apt comparison? It seems you're assuming we existed in some form before then, but then "forgot everything" once the sperm fused with the egg that made us...
  12. Zyobot

    Religion You are going to die... so let's discuss what we each think happens next.

    On what basis do you claim that? We can't really verify what happens to you after death, so I don't think anything more than speculation is possible here.
  13. Zyobot

    Religion You are going to die... so let's discuss what we each think happens next.

    Well, yeah. No surprises there, really. In which case, the obvious question is whether or not there actually is an afterlife, and what it's like if the answer is "yes". The fact the dead don't communicate with us at all—or at least, not in ways we can readily understand—makes me wonder whether...
  14. Zyobot

    Religion You are going to die... so let's discuss what we each think happens next.

    Perhaps you're right. I just imagine they'd have had ample time to come up with something, and I suspect more than a few have at least tried, even if none of them were successful. Sure, they may have no physical form or ability to directly interact with the material world anymore, but it still...
  15. Zyobot

    Religion You are going to die... so let's discuss what we each think happens next.

    I'm not saying they don't exist, since absence of evidence doesn't mean evidence of absence. All I'm saying is that I imagine that some of the dead would at least try to communicate with us in ways we can understand, though maybe they're just unable (or even universally disinclined) to, for...
  16. Zyobot

    Religion You are going to die... so let's discuss what we each think happens next.

    I take it you think death is the end of it, then? Personally, I really hope it's not. But, as I said before, I don't exactly find the Dead's perpetual silence to be a comforting indicator...
  17. Zyobot

    Religion You are going to die... so let's discuss what we each think happens next.

    Pretty late, but if there is an afterlife, I have to wonder why there've been no instances of "breaking the barrier" between realms? Or at least, no credible evidence of any, even without dismissing the possibility that it happens, but we just don't pick up on it. For example, I'd imagine at...
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