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  1. Zyobot

    Which Post-1900 Presidential Candidates Could've Surpassed LBJ's Popular Vote Share?

    Don't recall, but could easily have misremembered that. Read it a while ago, too, but will see if I can find it to verify.
  2. Zyobot

    Which Post-1900 Presidential Candidates Could've Surpassed LBJ's Popular Vote Share?

    Agreed he'd receive the boost of a lifetime if Kennedy were assassinated in '64, but I'd guess that the trajectory of the race leading up to this depends on other, much larger variables. Namely, whoever the GOP nominee is in a TL where his death is delayed and whether or not JFK still runs. I...
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    Which Post-1900 Presidential Candidates Could've Surpassed LBJ's Popular Vote Share?

    Wasn't there something about Democratic turnout being much lower than expected, which ultimately brought Clinton's victory into "comfortable" rather than blowout territory?
  4. Zyobot

    Which Post-1900 Presidential Candidates Could've Surpassed LBJ's Popular Vote Share?

    Frivolity this, frivolity that. If those same voters are surprised at how the political class made it at as far as it has, then America may very well be screwed, as is. Per my previous posts on the topic, I've also been wondering about an ATL 1952 election in which Truman hangs on by a thread...
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    Which Post-1900 Presidential Candidates Could've Surpassed LBJ's Popular Vote Share?

    Then the Right would have what it needs to tar-brush the anti-war movement as "terrorist sympathizers and Saddam's bootlickers" for years to come. Not to mention how it'd set back the Democratic Party at large, which will lean further right in subsequent elections to compensate.
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    Which Post-1900 Presidential Candidates Could've Surpassed LBJ's Popular Vote Share?

    Even if it the microphone weren't a factor, though, I don't know what was so disqualifying about a shrill and enthusiastic cry. Not when far more important things were on the line, though far be it from me to judge Dean's policymaking compared to Bush's. If you could get it to happen, then...
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    Which Post-1900 Presidential Candidates Could've Surpassed LBJ's Popular Vote Share?

    Well, I don't know enough about Dean personally to expound on your outline, but he certainly strikes me as an oddball who removes the Democrats' license to ridicule Bush as too goofy for the presidency or whatever. Yeah, that'd destroy them. Alternatively, I'm guessing a candidate would lose...
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    Which Post-1900 Presidential Candidates Could've Surpassed LBJ's Popular Vote Share?

    LBJ comes out with an October Surprise by disclosing those tapes to the public, then? If so, I'm not sure how many strings Nixon could pull to escape the truckload of legal trouble that'll come his way--let alone stand any meaningful chance in the face of a record-shattering landslide for Hubert...
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    Which Post-1900 Presidential Candidates Could've Surpassed LBJ's Popular Vote Share?

    Having checked on the original version of this thread I posted, someone suggested giving Jesse Jackson the Democratic nomination in 1984 instead (and making Wilson Goode his running mate). I suppose that with his comparative lack of electoral baggage relative to McGovern, having Jackson...
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    Which Post-1900 Presidential Candidates Could've Surpassed LBJ's Popular Vote Share?

    This one’s also quite unlikely, but George McGovern receiving the Democratic nomination in 1984 would probably do the trick. Him being a “leftie radical” who lost in a blowout in 1972, McGovern would come out against Reaganomics and probably call for much of what Walter Mondale did, if I were to...
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    Which Post-1900 Presidential Candidates Could've Surpassed LBJ's Popular Vote Share?

    I’ve seen projections that if a right-wing extremist like Pat Buchanan ran and somehow clinched the GOP nomination, Clinton would win reelection in a landslide. In which case, I’m curious about how the election map would look? Not to mention more precise popular-vote projections than just...
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    Which Post-1900 Presidential Candidates Could've Surpassed LBJ's Popular Vote Share?

    Insofar as it relates to more contrived scenarios involving Ike, him going up against a surviving FDR who somehow runs for another term is a possibility I've come up with. Granted, it's remote due to a combination of both voter fatigue and Roosevelt's increasingly obvious health problems, but if...
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    Which Post-1900 Presidential Candidates Could've Surpassed LBJ's Popular Vote Share?

    Third parties consistently face dim prospects for getting their candidates elected, it seems. Which I find more understandable in the case of someone like George Wallace or John B. Anderson, but not as much a popular former POTUS like Teddy Roosevelt. Dwight Eisenhower is another reasonable...
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    Which Post-1900 Presidential Candidates Could've Surpassed LBJ's Popular Vote Share?

    Winning in a landslide of 486 electoral votes and 61.1% of the popular vote, the 1964 victory achieved by President Lyndon B. Johnson currently holds the record for the largest share of the popular vote won by a modern president--a tally that narrowly exceeded FDR's 1936 victory over Alf Landon...
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