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Knowing people has been how the world works for years and years, and well most of history

That is how it has always been especially in the Intel world. Knowing people is half the battle

That is why you make friends with high ups in other agencies like I plan too. Work woth higher ups at the NSA get them to like me, have backing by other agencies. Become liked by those that have more pull, I can survive

So, should the BD have been a much less nice group, you would rather have a bunch of civlians instead of people trained to do it? Andyeah, the FBI has horrible things happen to them. One reason i want to joinso I could try and change things when I get out of the Army

the shooting that I was tlaking about was when the ATF were on the roof. Everyone either says a helicopter, that the ATF and FBI claimed to be unarmed (Most liekly just small arms from the people on board) or the BD fired out of it.I doubt 5.56 would be able to go through that roof from that angle.

They are still able to get the job done effectively. THe ossue being they are the closest we get to a civilian special forces without using the military. I doubt you would want the military to be able to operate groups like Delta, Seals, and the like on US Soil for such things. Not always true

So the only issue I have with Waco is the firefight and who started it. I have seen people from both sides asying the other started it. This is what happens when you have anyone else besides the FBI HRT doing anything invovling a shoot out.

I am going off what I have seen with my own eyes, and told through my uppers that have been in longer and worked more directly with them That is a good bit correct

You are still very wrong about the NSA currently. That is the main thing.

NSA never did. Because there is a LOT that we do a lot at all times. And I am talking about more then COs. Hell, my CW4 has told me shit that he did, and how much paperwork he had to go through to be able to do it. I am a realist when it comes to capabilities of what our government can do...

Because all of the changes that went on at the NSA were done behind the public eye. They did A LOT, for the worse of the nation in some ways, better in others. Again, I can not explain Obese doesnt mean fat. One of my NCOs by BMI is fat, and is in better shape then a lot of people on here. As...