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Because they are? That's what commies are. Because they only live to serve. She I'd stating they could be considered better then humans

Except we have no evidence in the first movie they sway the human thought of the entire Federation to think the bugs are bad. And the fact that Buenos Aires got destroyed and the Mormons went into the Quarntine zone without permission gives it evidence the Arachnids are not good guys

Explain. Show me where they lie? And the entirety of the argument that the Feds are the bad guy's ultimately goes back to the director. Who wanted to make them look like Fascists

...but isn't your argument that because the director says they are fascist the bugs the good guys...that it is true? And when have the Feds lied in the movie?

We have the creator saying they launched it, the feds saying they launched it and even how

An asteroid is bigger and thicker then a ship, and diffrent material

The plasma cuts right through Federation ships and doesn't stop. That is a boat load of energy, especially if they gi that slow from planet to orbit. They literally tell you ij the movie they used plasma to launch it

They literally say it in the movie. The bugs used thier plasma to launch it. We know bugs exist on other planets outside Klandathu as well...

Okay, then how at all is your point where the bugs are the good guy an actual argument? All I have seen argued is that the humans faked the meteor attack. But my question would be how the hell did the bugs get plasma bugs so fucking early in the war or even be on other planets if they are the...

Again. Where is this said? This is a Federation that has both civilians and citizens of its state. You can have people who vote and those who don't. But you never answered my question. What about the Federation makes them fascist? Where is this said?

So...explain how the Federation with its ability to argue differing view points, elections, and a leader who takes fucking responsibility and steps down when they fuck up is the bad guy and fascist

Behind a pay wall, but at least one can find more about it https://www.jstor.org/stable/1855138 The book breaks down why it isn't Fascism. And it was made closer to the two when they were at thier height then any source Wikipedia has

Exactly. The entirety of the Nazi ideals was a socialist state that was run on nationalist grounds. In contrast to communism where you just made them all hate thier lives while spewing bullshit.

...NAZI means the National Socialists...... He purged socialists that didn't agree with him. Like Stalin purged communists who didn't agree

Ah but you see Poe, they are part of the uniformed services! WHICH MUST MEAN MILITARY!!!!! Oh but unlike the military the public health Corp does not have a chain to work up or ranks and can be appointed head. Where as even General Milley had to work his way up to general