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  1. The Original Sixth

    Use of Elohim in the Bible (and in Fantasy Versus!)

    Yes, and I appreciate that. And yet at the same time, I also realize it's a great deal of effort to explain why you're wrong. The easiest way is to simply explain the concept of what a deity is, in its plainest terms. The second is the more grueling effort of explaining why your argument not...
  2. The Original Sixth

    Use of Elohim in the Bible (and in Fantasy Versus!)

    I have no problem with that, if you don't mind me making a bit of restructuring of my own, so as to make this more productive? Let us first agree on at least a select understanding. My point about the angels being a translation of Malak was not to trap you or trick you--it was to simply get an...
  3. The Original Sixth

    Use of Elohim in the Bible (and in Fantasy Versus!)

    No, it's me saving time. That is not to say I don't appreciate the effort, but you proving that there are multiple uses of Elohim doesn't really address the thrust of our disagreement, which is to say, the job titles of certain spirits within El Elyon's host, who are under his command--what they...
  4. The Original Sixth

    Use of Elohim in the Bible (and in Fantasy Versus!)

    Yeah, no. Not yet. We're going to straighten this out first. Because I have no idea who you think you're talking to, because you haven't kept it straight. I'm not saying they misused the word. What examples do they cite? I am not saying that Elohim always refers to gods, I am citing the...
  5. The Original Sixth

    Use of Elohim in the Bible (and in Fantasy Versus!)

    I'm aware of what it says jackass. Did you look at the source? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictionary_of_Deities_and_Demons_in_the_Bible Because that same source, if I'm not mistaken, also points to the Canaanite use of the word, which is as I've described. One might ask why the Hebews...
  6. The Original Sixth

    Use of Elohim in the Bible (and in Fantasy Versus!)

    Lol, wut. No, it isn't. Elohim, which is the word that is used, is used to refer to the Sons of El Elyon. This is well researched and appears outside the Bible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim It was later re-interpreted by readers to refer to angels or judges or kings, because they...
  7. The Original Sixth

    Use of Elohim in the Bible (and in Fantasy Versus!)

    It doesn't work that way. A god will generally only smite people who have personally offended them. And they have to do so in such a way that is impertinent to the divine being. Deities literally deem it beneath their honor to just smite a mortal because they foiled them. They might send mortal...
  8. The Original Sixth

    Use of Elohim in the Bible (and in Fantasy Versus!)

    You're not understanding what I'm saying. I am well aware that plenty of gods can call upon floods. Certainly FR deities can do this as well. The problem they have is this produces a certain amount of risk, because they would need to kill their worshipers and the worshipers of others. So they...
  9. The Original Sixth

    Use of Elohim in the Bible (and in Fantasy Versus!)

    ...How? First of all, that ship is made of wood. Something far, far weaker than the armor on a Super Carrier. Second, look at how close that guy had to GET in order to make his attack happen. No ship ever going to just stroll up to a Super Carrier. There are about a dozen ship acting as escort...
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