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  1. The Original Sixth

    A couple of Tactical Marine Squad vs Brotherhood of Steel (Fallout 4)

    Or maybe we just ignore that bit, like we do for D&D and other stuff.
  2. The Original Sixth

    A couple of Tactical Marine Squad vs Brotherhood of Steel (Fallout 4)

    Welcome to just about every science fictional universe?
  3. The Original Sixth

    A couple of Tactical Marine Squad vs Brotherhood of Steel (Fallout 4)

    Alright, no problem. I'll address the helmet capabilities last. There appears to be more information integration than I'd first expected. That's both good and bad. In this case, I doubt the Space Marines are going to be getting the sort of support that they might otherwise rely upon, though I...
  4. The Original Sixth

    A couple of Tactical Marine Squad vs Brotherhood of Steel (Fallout 4)

    Well, go ahead and find what you're looking for. I may change my position again and I'd be interested in seeing them. However, I think it's reasonable to expect that BOS armor will not hold up well against bolter rounds, even if we assume that close range combat might reduce the KE of the...
  5. The Original Sixth

    A couple of Tactical Marine Squad vs Brotherhood of Steel (Fallout 4)

    Again, you seem to have this problem of trying to go over old ground and then presenting it as if it somehow addresses the current discussion. We've been through this. A multi-megawatt laser beam slicing through someone is fairly consistent with just grabbing the laser and moving it left or...
  6. The Original Sixth

    A couple of Tactical Marine Squad vs Brotherhood of Steel (Fallout 4)

    Hey Zachowon, I've been trying to do some digging on Space Marine bolters. I cam across this: His eventual calculation is around 27 kj. Overall, it's not a bad calculation. The one thing I take issue with is the assumption that the gun itself adds any significant velocity to a round. That's...
  7. The Original Sixth

    A couple of Tactical Marine Squad vs Brotherhood of Steel (Fallout 4)

    Again, no. You do not need countless megawatts to slowly slice someone in half. That would, depending on certain factors in regards to the laser weapon itself, be more than enough power for the user to simply hold back the trigger and pass it through the target. Again, you can look at medieval...
  8. The Original Sixth

    A couple of Tactical Marine Squad vs Brotherhood of Steel (Fallout 4)

    That's rather comical when we've seen videos of Astartes engaging at much, much closer ranges. I'm sorry, but the vaporization feat would be clocked in at 3 gigawatts. If Astartes were really that powerful, bog-standard humans would simply not be a part of the battlefield unless it involved...
  9. The Original Sixth

    A couple of Tactical Marine Squad vs Brotherhood of Steel (Fallout 4)

    If you have calcs that I'd believe, go ahead. I expect their power armor to be fairly durable, but there is only so much I'm willing to accept as plausible. This is a man-sized target. I sincerely doubt they can resist weapons above the low-end megajoule range. Otherwise, we're getting to the...
  10. The Original Sixth

    A couple of Tactical Marine Squad vs Brotherhood of Steel (Fallout 4)

    And yet you post evidence that contradicts your own position. First, Jules speaks about laser pistols that can cut people in half. That is, as the Chosen One says later, fully consistent of lasers with several megawatts (which is, lower than what I estimated in the double digit megawatts). And...
  11. The Original Sixth

    A couple of Tactical Marine Squad vs Brotherhood of Steel (Fallout 4)

    Probably not. The reason comes down to logistics and numbers. The loss of one Tactical Marine would effectively mean a drop in 25% of the fighting capability of the main squad. The loss of a single scout would drop intelligence dropping from the scout unit by ~33%. They could reduce the damage...
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