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Or bad enough that it does still work, but not on everyone; thus encouraging further division.

The simple fact of the matter is that they have institutional power backing them, whereas anyone who might wish to oppose them does not. Revenge will have to wait until said institutional power is removed; we just need to remember to neither forget, nor forgive what they've done.

Except that hasn't really worked now, has it?

Technically they did, if you believe the allegations that Osama bin Laden built his terrorist organization using money he received from the CIA during Soviet–Afghan War. The intelligence community also, as I recall, outright ignored the perpetrators of 9/11 from the moment they entered the...

Which is practically impossible without dismantling the organization in its entirety anyways, and wouldn't do anything to address the culture issues that will just see them replaced with equally corrupt individuals.

Why are you so desperate to believe Patriot Front is legit?

As I see it, they're still too scared of the regressive left to want help anytime soon. They will eventually reach a breaking point; but until that point, we're stuck sitting on our hands. Even then, the authorities are more likely to march with Antifa than stand against them.

Two small problems with that plan; the media is doing everything they can to prevent us from even being able to refer to it as rioting, and the regressive left will never be fine with the cops/National Guard coming down on their goons. There is no way to win politically in this scenario.

What is says is that Antifa and law enforcement in this country are ultimately on the same side.

It also makes it obvious he's not following up on any of the sources the people arguing with him are presenting.

You know, whether or not these guys are "glowies", they're still not a group any sane individual should support.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I'd gather their response would be.