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Some of those false statements directly contradicted the intelligence at the time though:

That's fair, though I do appreciate you responding to me at all after defensive outburst. By itself I agree; it's fairly innocuous, but the article I cited states that:

Well yes, but Afghanistan was not perceived as a strong state, and we didn't overpower them nearly as much as we could have; so it was less about our willingness, and more our capability. Or at least, that's how the argument goes; I don't know if there's any truth to it or not, but there's an...

I understand that and, for what it's worth, despite my desire to stick to my established position on the subject, I accept that the possibility I'm wrong and you're right exists. Perhaps I will find out that's the case in 30 years; but until then, with what I have to work with, I just don't...

I'm not going to get into another defensive argument, especially considering we've already done this particular song and dance before; but suffice to say I don't believe that, and you're not going to give me what I need to make me believe it.

Could you ignore my last reply? I was clearly getting defensive and lashing out, and I'd like to try again with a cooler head. I don't actually know if Bush lied or not for certain; all I have to support that claim is examples where he and his administrating made contradictory statements, which...

Your argument was essentially that they said they didn't lie, therefore they didn't lie. The fact that you quoted those particular individuals, people you yourself have called liars, and expected me to take them at their word? I'm sorry, but not only is that hypocritical on your part, it's also...

Nancy Pelosi, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders... truly, statements from individuals blessed with outstanding moral fiber such as them are the best corroborating evidence. After all; not one has ever been know to lie when it suits their purposes. Look, I get that saying what I did...

And 'there were totally WMDs' was the 2004 version of 'Hillary didn't acid-wash her emails'; technically accurate, but misrepresentative of the issue at hand. The fact of that matter is that the evidence of WMDs he presented to the American people was completely fabricated; it does not matter...

Not sure why you're bringing up Assad, but the important thing was that Bush's administration fabricated evidence of specific weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and then failed to produce them after we invaded; once we figured out said evidence was faked, it kinda undermined anything else we...

Speaking of controversy and George W. Bush, how about the time he insisted we needed to invade Iraq because they had "weapons of mass destruction"? Weapons he couldn't prove they had, weapons we couldn't find after all was said and done, weapons his administration fabricated evidence of in order...

How about that time Obama said “There is no spying on Americans, we don’t have a domestic spying program” on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno? Mind you, this was right after the Snowden leaks.

Not the worst I suppose, but when Obama promised to repeal the Patriot Acts, but then went on to sign them back into law; that felt pretty bad, not gonna lie. All he had to do was not sign them; almost nobody was pushing for him to do so at the time, as far as I'm aware, and it would have cost...