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  1. ShieldWife

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    On one hand I agree, on the other hand is any crappy job that only a desperate person would take exploitive? People who do sex work have the choice of working at McDonalds too, but they find the sexual job more appealing for what ever reason - likely much more money.
  2. ShieldWife

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    How do we define exploitation anyway? It seems like a loaded nebulously defined term. If a porn actress willingly agrees to the deal, then is it exploitation?
  3. ShieldWife

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    You didn't mention me, but I absolutely agree. The porn industry tends to be really scummy. As I mentioned earlier, the idea of these people teaching 12 year olds about sex is pretty horrible. I actually think that in some ways the proliferation of pornography on the internet could actually...
  4. ShieldWife

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    Yes, that is true. Exploitation is something hard to quantify if people are making free choices. If someone is some kind of sex slave, then obviously pornography made with them is wrong. If they are making porn to support a drug habit, then the porn can’t really be blamed, though it’s undeniable...
  5. ShieldWife

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    Everything you say is true. One reason that dating can be so hard for men is that women’s behavior is encouraged and excused by both society and the government. All to often, the consequences of women being bad are paid not by her but by society or her male partner. Both laws and society needs...
  6. ShieldWife

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    Did you honestly just liken watching pornography to eating Jews? You see, if someone is being murdered and eaten, then you have someone (the victim) who is not consenting and is directly and undeniably harmed. With porn, you have a girl who willingly makes a naughty movie of herself and a man...
  7. ShieldWife

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    Well, what one person might consider harmful another may not. Let me give a theoretical example relating to pornography. Let’s say that there is a guy is isn’t very attractive and has terrible social skills. He can’t get dates and prefers to watch pornography to satisfy his sexual needs instead...
  8. ShieldWife

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    I’m inclined to say that the harm (or benefit?) of pornography is largely subjective. Some people probably are actually hurt by viewing pornography and others are probably helped by it. Others may be influenced in ways that some view as positive and others view as negative. Something similar...
  9. ShieldWife

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    Maybe we should take all of the porn discussions to NoL’s pornography thread, so it won’t be stretched out over multiple threads. https://www.the-sietch.com/index.php?threads/the-political-problem-of-pornography.1203/
  10. ShieldWife

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    That’s interesting. Do you have some links to data and/or studies on this? I would like to see them.
  11. ShieldWife

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    Do you think that pornography provides a social benefit?
  12. ShieldWife

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    True, though I mention entertainment because it has the potential to influence people in the same way that pornography can. I don’t trust schools to teach sexual morality. In fact, if they taught it, they would probably be teaching out of some book designed in a university sociology department...
  13. ShieldWife

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    Absolutely. In fact, I’m of the opinion that non-porn entertainment is probably more dangerous for kids as it has all sorts of left wing messages catered to them and the parents don’t care. As a parent I try to keep a close eye on any media my kids consume and alert to what messages that media...
  14. ShieldWife

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    I don’t think that viewing pornography is a sin, though I think that a good argument could be made that a lot of people involved in the pornography industry have questionable morality and beliefs and also engage in some questionable practices. I don’t think that it should be illegal, but the...
  15. ShieldWife

    Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

    I have been arguing against him, but I think we need to be careful not to dogpile Name of Love too much. He’s arguing against a bunch of people at once and that can be pretty stressful. Pornography probably does have a bad effect on society even if all (of what some might call) pornography...
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