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You could replace Russia with almost any country, and the meme is accurate. It's about how the US does all this stuff (it absolutely does,) but uses euphemisms to make it not sound as bad.

But you were also arguing that leftist opinions were useless? I'm trying to steel man here, in earnest. So your opinion is that if leftists think them their enemy, there's probably a good bet that they're good to support, even if most of the left's opinions on such are useless. In other...

So ignoring the one nazi line then, the position you're taking is "leftists think they're far right, so you should support them?"

I do care, about US involvement. Do I care what happens to a backwater shithole who likes to wear nazi symbols? Nope. Is that because they wear nazi symbols? Nope. So, why, then? Because the result of this war makes absolutely no difference in my life, it's not my problem, and I dont want...

I'm not judging Ukraine based on that list of stuff. You are, and you're telling me that I should care. But I don't. What I'm criticizing here, isn't Ukraine for supporting nazis. It's YOU, for thinking that's a reason the right should support them.

I don't care if someone accuses me of being a nazi. Or any flavor of "ist" or "phobe." Those are usually meaningless labels to me, because they're being used to insult, and are not based in reality. I usually respond to those with a variant of agreeing and amplifying. For example, "yes I'm a...

You just used this as an example of why Ukraine is so based and we should support them. Which means either you think we should support them because they're Nazi Sympathizers, or just that you think right wingers are nazi Sympathizers. Yeah we should really listen to you. So based. Lol

So we should support Ukraine because they honor nazis? That's a great argument marduk

The utterly failed counter offensive is mostly what I was referencing in my last post. I watched everyone (here, media, etc) go on about how great it was going to be, then they lost territory, it was obviously failing, so they flipped the script to "nah man they were totally going for...

If we just send them a few billion dollars more it'll totally work! Waiting for the backtracking in 2024 when none of this happens and borders stay the same or Ukraine loses more land. Then People can jump in with excuses like "they totally didn't fail, they were just going for logistical...

I've been hearing nothing but propaganda a out how bad Russia is losing for over a year now. Yet the war wages on. If they were losing anywhere CLOSE to as bad as all that propaganda said, they'd be utterly fucked at this point. Consider for a second that both sides are lying to you. We don't...

Bacle, I respect you and your willingness to stand up for your opinions, but your revulsion to anything that criticizes the war in Ukraine is blinding you. I think you're just watching one side of the propaganda, and you've got to realize 99% of the news about this conflict on either side is...