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  1. OliverCromwell

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    Which is also precisely my point. Like I said, there’s no sense faffing about the preservation of culture anymore because that culture is already lost—instead, let’s look towards what will economically enrich people in the country right now, which all economics consistently say further...
  2. OliverCromwell

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    Well naturally most of the descendants of those who destroyed genuine American culture would rather focus more on the present than the past, seeing as though to dwell on the past is to dwell on the atrocity that so many of the people here themselves' ancestors committed.
  3. OliverCromwell

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    I would hope people are able to read what I'm actually saying in my posts better than that lol. I've never said that the US ever had unrestricted immigration, nor have I ever claimed that the US ever should have unrestricted immigration. What I said was that the particular claim that the US...
  4. OliverCromwell

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    Hence the "watered down", but at this point I think we've lost the plot. At any rate, my point here is to say that all previous immigrant waves to the US were demonstrably more left-wing than average, as their support for the New Deal Coalition among other things shows. As I said before, genuine...
  5. OliverCromwell

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    Yes, because the New Deal was watered down socialism and these immigrant groups broadly supported that at the time, which is my whole point.
  6. OliverCromwell

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    I outright said this as well, which is why I also brought up the strong connections between immigrant populations and the New Deal Coalition right afterwards.
  7. OliverCromwell

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    The point about black people and homosexuality was made in error and I apologize for it, as I said earlier I retract the claim. As for the big government matter--again, are you familiar with the history of American immigrant politics? Most immigrants right now favor big government policy but...
  8. OliverCromwell

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    Ah, my apologies--black people are more likely to be tolerant of homosexuality controlling for religiosity than white people was what I meant to say, but I'm having trouble tracking down the source and I might just be misremembering this entirely and I'll retract the point. Nonetheless, I'd...
  9. OliverCromwell

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    Yes, because political affiliation demonstrably has a sorting effect on people's overall politics--there's no inherent reason why, for instance, black people should be more likely to be tolerant of homosexuality than white people, but they are because black people tend to be politically...
  10. OliverCromwell

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    If you believe that the current American immigration policies are a net positive though, then this applies just as much to the policies you oppose than it does to high-skill immigration. The diversity lottery, for instance, has experience and education requirements on top of the general...
  11. OliverCromwell

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    If this sort of thing were that easy, then frankly it would already be done. How exactly do you control for which immigrant will, say, raise children that could become a great doctor, or who might start a business that could employ many people? It's impossible to predict how productive somebody...
  12. OliverCromwell

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    Do you have any other source that actually supports this conjecture? Your report comes from an organization whose stated purpose is to promote policies to reduce the volume of immigration, so forgive me if I doubt its objectivity--as I said, the vast majority of other analysis of the economic...
  13. OliverCromwell

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    This is untrue--there's very little evidence suggesting that immigrants take more from welfare than citizens, and even less to suggest that the benefits they do take exceed the overall value they provide to the US in terms of labor, tax revenue, etc. Almost no credible economists ever suggest...
  14. OliverCromwell

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    No, it isn't. This is, in fact, precisely part of the point I'm trying to make here. People who live near the border don't have any inherent special knowledge about immigration policy and how to prevent illegal border crossings, and border protection staff don't have any inherent special...
  15. OliverCromwell

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    I'm not for totally open borders, but I don't see any sense in spending so much money and effort on what's almost inevitably going to be a failed attempt at eliminating all immigration across the border. The immigration policies the Republican party was exploring before being eaten by the...
  16. OliverCromwell

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    The notion that the United States needs to restrict immigration to prevent harm to the fundamental national character of America is laughably antiquated. Literally antiquated--it's empty wind and fury over a fight that was already lost centuries ago. What will immigration restrictions due to...
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