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    So...NATO is expanding...

    Even less of a reason for them to want to be in NATO and to be allowed in NATO, as France would naturally have more political pull in the alliance.
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    So...NATO is expanding...

    a) Why the hell would Spain agree? b) Brazil would still be too southern for its territory to count. c) Why would Brazil need to be in NATO anyway? It's not like it has any neighbors that are a military threat and it cannot deal with alone.
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    So...NATO is expanding...

    Why would Morocco want to be in NATO, and why would France want Morocco in NATO? https://english.dipublico.org/691/north-atlantic-treaty/ Brazil is too far south for NATO to care.
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    So...NATO is expanding...

    Obviously they don't want a dramatically lower standard of living. Also the Kurd lands in Syria are pretty small and the Arabs living next to them would not take kindly to their expansion. And neither would Assad. And we know what Assad does when there's people he wants to get rid of.
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    The Kurds from there have their differences with the ones in Turkey. Also they could argue that they are more likely to get something out of the weak Syria.
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    Not sure it would exist for long. It would be a landlocked country surrounded by countries considering it a threat to their stability due to cross-border Kurd populations in Syria, Iran and Iraq, and Kurds couldn't do a good job of denying that. Considering the state of other landlocked...
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    So...NATO is expanding...

    So? Soviets fought Nazis. Doesn't make them good allies. Al-Qaeda fought ISIS a lot too. Doesn't make them allies either. Kurdish commies fought ISIS efficiently? What's different? They didn't do it out of charity, chivalry or a contract, it was either that or lay down and die.
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    Allies? The Kurds, especially the Turkish ones, being western allies is a leftist psyop. Antifa loves them. In reality, PKK is considered terrorist by USA and EU since ages.
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    So...NATO is expanding...

    The Turkey-Finland-Sweden deal in full text:
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    Leftist by US standards. Not so leftist by the standards of, say, Venezuela or Bolivia. They could join their brethren in Iraq. Sure, they would be poorer, but it is a weak state so they do have a decent chance of hammering out a considerable degree of autonomy, and it is more or less their...
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    So...NATO is expanding...

    Those are hardly the most leftist countries in the region. Apparently not, hence they are making a "security zone" instead: https://www.trtworld.com/turkey/t%C3%BCrkiye-taking-steps-for-security-zone-south-of-its-syria-border-57705
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    So...NATO is expanding...

    Well, yeah, but then gain, Turkey is considerably richer than places like Venezuela, Nicaragua or Honduras. "Our president praises Pinochet" Brazil would sure love some leftist immigrants :D
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    But why would either of the parties agree to this plan? Most of the socialist Latin America is poorer than Turkey and the local socialists are quite insistent on being the ones in charge of the party. Kurds would be coming there, to a foreign land they don't care about, with no power, no...
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    So...NATO is expanding...

    Guess what, as i've predicted, some sort of compromise between Sweden and Turkey is already being implemented. https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-06-13/nato-chief-says-sweden-has-taken-important-steps-to-meet-turkeys-demands
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    So...NATO is expanding...

    Don't you have google? https://www.mildenhall.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/272283/looking-back-de-gaulle-tells-american-forces-to-leave-france/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Cherbourg_incident So yeah, things do sometimes get spicy between NATO...
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    The Assange one is a long and very controversial one, also touching speech and national security. And then there is the wide ranging, ongoing argument about US 1A vs European hate speech regulations. https://law2.wlu.edu/deptimages/Law%20Review/62-2VanBlarcum.pdf Reminder than NATO is a...
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    There were plenty of extradition controversies between USA and various European members. As for migrants, i remind you of the behavior of Germany and most left wing governments in the same crisis. Except they didn't ask for billions of euros to not do the stupid shit, they just did the stupid...
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    And what did Turkey get from this pushing around other than stuff it has a reasonable expectation of as a NATO member? It is currently helping against Russia (see: keeping the straits closed to Russian warships, Bayraktars, Black Sea naval cooperation and so on), so this premise is just plainly...
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    So...NATO is expanding...

    No, "sufficient paranoia" does not constitute a valid interest. Yes, we are, and that's what NATO is doing right now with keeping Turkey in and tolerating some level of assholery from it. I do not expect friendship from Turkey, playing nice even less so, only usefulness. As long as it can...
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    So...NATO is expanding...

    Paranoia is not synonymous with good politics, and paranoia + preemptive strike doctrine is a commonly recognized recipe for disaster, not a radical new genius idea. If only trustworthy countries regarding action against Russia should be allowed in NATO, we would have to kick out France...
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