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The thing is, modern power and water infrastructure is generally ludicrously vulnerable. You might only have 'control' of red states, but a few dozen constitutionalists in blue territory would be able to cripple entire cities through sabotage. That's going to make a lot more difference than...

If a long-term civil war does develop, yes, at least semi-conventional field units will be used by both sides. The National Guard is likely where the nucleus of such units will come from. Irregular partisans will be a continual factor as well though.

Cameras are a lot of places, but they aren't everywhere, and they're also pretty easy to disable if you find yourself wanting to. The Democrat party of the 90's might have been that competent. The Democrat Party when Obama was elected might even have been. But they're facing the inevitable...

The USA couldn't stop the Taliban from being able to harass its bases and patrols in Afghanistan, which is literally on the far side of the planet from its economic and industrial place, as well as the politicians and military brass making the decisions. The FBI, NSA, etc, have failed to stop...

Have you ever held a rifle? Fired a rifle? Fired it at long range? Do you think that being an MP somehow makes a person magically immune to bullets? What do you think happens to a military base when it gets cut off from power, water, and sewage, and demands are issued that the people...

1. You're assuming the Dems are competent enough to move such people to supposedly secure locations before hand. When have Democrats ever not been shocked and surprised that someone would dare enact reprisals against them? 2. 'Secure' doesn't mean much when tens of millions of people within...

And here you're just showing raw ignorance. What politicians and what high-rank military officers are involved in the nuclear command chain is public knowledge. There's no infiltration needed. Where most of the permanent silos are is public knowledge. No need for infiltration. If an aircraft...

And now you're not even bothering to read my posts. Seriously, stop bringing this issue up if you're just going to talk shit and argue horribly. It's annoying.

Your entire conception of how such a thing would go is completely out of touch with reality, this part in particular. Some people have talked about a 'troubles' phase to a building civil war, where there's lots of violence and bloodshed, without an open civil war. This is likely, but not...

You keep bringing up this nonsensical take, and never listen to the fairly comprehensive counter-arguments. If you aren't going to listen, why not save us all the trouble of having the point rehashed for the Nth time, and not bring it up again?

You're the one demonstrating ignorance of modern farmers here. Sure, they don't drive a plow with muscles anymore, but they shift, move, and repair heavy agricultural equipment. If they handle livestock, that can also be a fairly physically demanding task. I gained like sixty pounds of muscle...

In America, probably a second constitutional convention, with a lot of things along the lines of 'And if as a government official, you try to abrogate constitutional rights, you are subject to X punishment, to be carried out by any citizen at their pleasure.'

It won't matter if lefties and some 'moderates' believe it. Believing it won't suddenly make the food shipments into the city resume, won't un-cut power lines, won't make truckers carry fuel or anything else. Leftists aren't demigods with prescient planning and supernatural power to compel...

...No, that wasn't my argument at all. My argument is that while you have more open conflicts in other places, liberal cities, and DC in particular, are also incredibly vulnerable to simple and easily-affected bits of sabotage.

...Are you talking about a civil war at all? Because it seems more like you're talking about 'business as usual except some people might be violent over politics,' except that's already business as usual...

First off, you're comparing unguided level bombing from high altitude, to targeted attacks on the ground. This is not an apt comparison. Second off, things have changed, especially in the last 20 years, but really over the last 30. In the 1980's, America's leadership was primarily made up of...

1. How many power substations are there in and around the capital? How many have regular foot and vehicle traffic near to them just from regular travel? Do you have any idea of how large a task you're setting out here? 2. Why would the authorities have evidence of who did it? 3. If there's...

I use DC because in a struggle against the Fed, it's the key city. It's far from the only area with lots of vulnerable infrastructure though.

Okay, so now I see where the problem with your thinking is, and I suspect that this is also part of where Bacle is messing up. First off, it isn't going to be '1 million dollars worth of damage.' The cost of the equipment destroyed in a single attack might be 1 million dollars (tens of...

Exactly. And a lot of the serious conservatives in this country are very practical people, who understand how things like infrastructure and logistics work, not journalism majors who think that food originates at the grocery store. Here in America, the majority of power lines are literally...