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    Is Le Pen the best choice for France?

    This quote takes it as a given anarchy is an option. Let me more accurately rephrase my position: "Surely its better to have friends in the Presidency and Supreme court making decisions for me than to have enemies in the Presidency making decisions for me". There is a ruling class. There...
  2. J

    Is Le Pen the best choice for France?

    This seems to be an extremely, toxic view. That their are thieves, and worse thieves. With the actively malicious thief somehow the better party. What can you do with such a view of the world? It seems almost, self indulgent. That things are just bad, so there's no difference between moral and...
  3. J

    Is Le Pen the best choice for France?

    I think it actually does relate to a Le Pen, or the broader topic of the "best" choice, part of which is figuring out what the goal is. And to figure out the best option, that does take some discussion over what the goal is, and what the available means to achieve those goals is...
  4. J

    Is Le Pen the best choice for France?

    So, if you don't believe in codes and morals anyways, that the Law can't be based on anything but screwing over enemies chosen arbitrarily, and are even more cynical than me, what exactly are you complaining about? Why aren't you just joining the winning side? I'm here because I have a moral...
  5. J

    Is Le Pen the best choice for France?

    Yes, as a stage to achieving the classless, stateless society. This is very basic part of communism. Friedrich Engels, part 3, chapter 2 of Anti-Dühring (1878) Friedrich Engels, Origins of the Family, Private Property, and the State (1884) Or, from the first paragraph on wiki description of...
  6. J

    Is Le Pen the best choice for France?

    Well, yeah, losing a war sucks. Why then would I support people who actively campaign for the enemy and our defeat? Someone is going to define right and wrong. Given that, wouldn't you rather be the side dictating than being dictated to? Either the thief can declare thieving legal, and punish...
  7. J

    Is Le Pen the best choice for France?

    Well, that's why we don't want the communists to win, which part of the argument is the Libertarians indirectly help? Thus, if Libertarians are helping communism, then in the interest of not dying Libertarianism has to be resisted. I don't like the idea that Libertarians seem to be serving that...
  8. J

    Is Le Pen the best choice for France?

    Yes, if you define Communism in a way that excludes Marx, sure. It just means another point of evidence you don't know anything to me however. I never said anything about Libertarianism depending on Rousseau. I used it as an example of your beliefs being poor in your defense of him. You making...
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    Is Le Pen the best choice for France?

    Not really. And the communist argues for the abolishment of the state and absolute freedom. That statement is equally unconvincing. Every conversation with you reinforces my belief that the mainstream Libertarian, which you seem a part of, serves this handmaid role to socialism. What that...
  10. J

    Is Le Pen the best choice for France?

    And here we see libertarianism, the handmaiden of socialism.
  11. J

    Is Le Pen the best choice for France?

    Eh, I remain deeply cynical of Macron actually being right in any way: he wants to be tough, but that's not the same thing. He's made noise, but I'm not sure he's really done anything substantial. If he was serious about the immigration thing, he could be doing it now from my understanding. Plus...
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    Is Le Pen the best choice for France?

    Basically as it says on the tin, is Le Pen the best option France has? As far as I can tell, she's the closest thing you have to a nationalist right winger in France who might not be a horrible internationalist socialist. However, she herself does not seem to be particularly anti socialist, and...
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