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    Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

    Oh, no, I am definitely aware of the pro-Israel and pro-Palestine movements and their history. I'm also aware that throughout the 2010s, they've been hollowed out and turned into shells of their former selves, receiving next to no media coverage and, in the case of BDS, actually being suppressed...
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    Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

    Well, then who is our government actually siphoning off all our resources to?
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    Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

    Screw them over? We sent two entire Carrier Battle Groups to warn Iran and the rest to fuck off and let Israel bomb Gaza with impunity, burning literally millions of dollars a day in Israel's defense. How is that screwing them over? Our politicians genuflect to them in ways that are frankly...
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    Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

    "You people?" I'm "You People", now? Let me get something straight with you. Over the past twenty years, we have wasted trillions of dollars in American treasure and flushed thousands of American lives down the toilet to support Israel's ambitions in the Middle East, to clear out their Arab...
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    Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

    Israel's response to Hamas's brutal provocation was to embark on a campaign of ethnic cleansing. Sure, fuck Hamas, but are we just going to pretend that Gazans aren't human and deserving of compassion? Let me put this another way. There are 20,000 to 25,000 Hamas members and 2,375,000 people...
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    Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

    Hamas was unironically propped up by Israel to discredit a secular Palestine and recast them as violent thugs. It wouldn't be the first time that the West and our allies have funded and backed Islamic radicals only to pay the price with armed conflicts later. It's mirrored by the support of the...
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    Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

    They were already expressing animosity towards Netanyahu's administration due to his judicial reforms. They enjoyed controlling Israel through their courts, much like our CIA controls us through ours. To quote this article: The sudden outbreak of heavy-handed partisanship, with conservatives...
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    Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

    Oh, I misread what you were trying to say. You wrote "a conspiracy web against Netanyahu". What I heard was "a conspiracy web AGAINST NETANYAHU", what you meant was "A CONSPIRACY WEB against Netanyahu". I parse ambiguous sentences like that a little differently from most people.
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    Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

    Did you even read what I was saying? Netanyahu was the target. He doesn't even realize what is going on.
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    Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

    Yes. In fact, I underestimated it. My old estimate was based on obsolete data. Going by Denis Rancourt and company's estimates, (1 death per 800 shots), then with the 18.64 million doses administered in Israel as of May of this year, there have been 23,000 deaths so far. We can see the all-cause...
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    Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

    Well, one can hope. Basically all intelligence agencies on this planet are rogue entities that don't serve the interests of their host nations, from the CIA, to MI6, all of them need to go. They commit heinous felonies on such a regular basis, it's not even funny...
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    Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

    That's not the entirety of the argument. First off, how did Mossad or the Shin Bet not catch Hamas in the planning phase, noting movements of troops and materiel? Why weren't signs of an attack picked up weeks or months in advance? Keep in mind, this is the same Shin Bet that can keep track of...
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    Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

    He can: Call for a ceasefire and prisoner exchange with Hamas, and potentially retain power, but still have massive internal and external problems to deal with. Continue bombing Gaza into dust, kill the hostages with collateral damage, and then be ousted and replaced with some Ehud Barak...
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    Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

    Exactly. There has to be a housecleaning.
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    Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

    Doubtful. I am very certain that Hamas actually did cross the border, and they did commit atrocities against the local civilian population. Because they were allowed to. And, yes, if a ceasefire was called, there would still be a significant security issue. Who do you think Hamas are?
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    Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

    You believe that men with paramotors and inflatable boats were able to hoodwink the IDF, who have literally the most impenetrable security corridor in the world next to the DMZ between North and South Korea, but that the IDF also miraculously knows where all of Hamas's tunnels are buried the...
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    Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

    The current war in Gaza is a setup by Mossad to oust Netanyahu because the Likud party was gaining too much power over Israel's government. There, I said it. https://thejewishvoice.com/2023/04/leaked-docs-mossad-urges-own-agents-to-decry-israeli-govt-over-judicial-reform/ Also, both Israelis...
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