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  1. History Learner

    Madison's General: Moreau in the War of 1812

    Not in the context of the smaller armies requiring smaller logistics, which was my point. I accepted the gist of your argument, but pointed out it had a clear counter. For some, yes. Even Canadian civics/history points out the deep divisions and unclear loyalties in BNA at this time. Yes, I...
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    Madison's General: Moreau in the War of 1812

    Except I have, by noting multiple times now the smaller Army sizes in North America compared to Europe thus require smaller levels of forage and the fact that Canada isn't as devastated as Europe was after almost a decade of war in 1801. As for the "Canadians", no such identity exists at this...
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    Madison's General: Moreau in the War of 1812

    No, I directly acknowledged them and addressed them in Posts 11 and 14. If you feel I left any out, please directly elucidate them for myself and the audience so that I may address them directly, rather than leaving them undefined and thus vague for everyone else. No, I addressed this all in...
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    Madison's General: Moreau in the War of 1812

    Indeed, Moreau has many positives compared to his OTL situation in Europe. Chief among them is the fact that he is facing Natives and militia mostly, as opposed to the professional armies of the Austrians, Prussians and Russians. Given the Rhineland and South Germany are not breadbaskets at...
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    Madison's General: Moreau in the War of 1812

    This was all, to varying degrees, applicable in both cases; this was entirely my point, because Moreau was able to achieve decisive success in the former, so why should we doubt he would in the latter? We also don't have to speculate on the latter point because we know the U.S. Army was expanded...
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    Madison's General: Moreau in the War of 1812

    Moreau would initially be commanding troops with little training or organized supply systems, with almost no supporting administration and with restive regions in the rear. The government he serves is riddled with factionalism and is unstable, to add further issue. If you think I'm describing...
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    Madison's General: Moreau in the War of 1812

    Yes, but even if they accept the peace, it's going to be tense the first few years. Britain didn't really demobilize after Amiens for much the same reason. By that point, if Moreau has overrun much of Canada, it's fait accompli.
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    Madison's General: Moreau in the War of 1812

    It seems doubtful, if the U.S. has successfully conquered Canada by the time the British can divert their attention, it would be fait accompli. If the Frankfurt Proposals are enacted, Britain can't afford to really send additional forces and if the War of the Sixth Coalition is still raging...
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    Madison's General: Moreau in the War of 1812

    An interesting fact I learned recently is that Jean Victor Marie Moreau, the victor of the Battle of Hohenlinden and republican rival of Napoleon, was forced into exile in the United States in 1805. He initially refused all offers of a commission into the U.S. Army and enjoyed a retirement of...
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