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  1. FriedCFour

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    There’s also the point that known drug smugglers, human traffickers, rapists, and murderers cant generally get Visas. They can however cross the Rio Grande. Not enough people bring that up. If you are going to make a wound analogy, this is like saying the six inch long cut needs to be...
  2. FriedCFour

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    It would be very helpful at stopping over the border drug and human trafficking which is the worst part of our current border situation. Also, it would be nice to build things once again that are beautiful and are for giving messages to the people of your nation.
  3. FriedCFour

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    you are right to a degree, actual policy wise the establishment GOP and Democrat positions are both pretty trash. Both are in essence fine with annihilating our nation via immigration, it’s really just a question of at what rate we do it and how many illegal vs legal we let in. They really did...
  4. FriedCFour

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    Man gets up on giant stage in front of the whole world and vows to give every illegal immigrant in the US citizenship. “He didn’t promise citizenship to anyone” It’s vastly softer because of catch and release.
  5. FriedCFour

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    He’s responsible for telling them that he will give them all citizenship, These arrests are also catch and release. They’re being arrested and then let loose in the country. It’s the same thing dummy. You don’t think it would be stupid easy, with amnesty promised to all “11” (been the same...
  6. FriedCFour

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    He’s facing a problem he caused lol. Mkay, so one had a house fire he put out easily and then the other is fighting an inferno that he is the cause of. Better? https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-politics-legislation-immigration-barack-obama-5274d5912b062989cc4f2856f3741cd6 He’s responsible...
  7. FriedCFour

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    Well yes, he literally said “everyone who’s here illegally right now, ima give you all citizenship.” Citizenship means you get welfare, and if you commit crimes you don’t get deported. What that means is you have a time limit to get here. What we are getting are the dregs of societies who can’t...
  8. FriedCFour

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    Why do you think it’s up 10x? Why do you think we are arresting 30x as many? Biden promised them all citizenship if they can cross the border before amnesty is passed. It’s like if you started a fire in your own house, are throwing water on the fire, and you’re going and saying “wow, this guy is...
  9. FriedCFour

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    I mean as far as I understand it identity politics is just politics that involves your inherent identity which is like, all politics up until the liberal era. Are you talking about in this thread? Also I don’t think anyone in here is a white nationalist type and I don’t think you even know what...
  10. FriedCFour

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    Like I don’t really understand how this isn’t identity politics. What exactly do you think identity politics are? I’m also not seeing red here lol, but really it just seems like your arguments are a lot more reliant on the emotional weight of identity, and using that to brow beat whites into...
  11. FriedCFour

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    You have a weird habit of replying to people without quoting them. Note that I said “that’s why you’d bring it up”. The only other reason is to use your identity politically, which you absolutely have been doing lol. You’re clearly invested in it, you value it, and it impacts your views. You...
  12. FriedCFour

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    No. And honestly this is way off track into major irrelevancy in regards to what immigration policy the United States should have. The only point in rehashing the Indian wars is to try and say that America can’t restrict immigration because of it which is retarded.
  13. FriedCFour

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    Not really, because to do that you need to compare other victors to victors, ie look at how Africa, Asia, and the Americas were as imperialists.
  14. FriedCFour

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    Why is that even relevant? You’re talking about two different ethnic groups with vastly different cultures clashing over land. No shit there’s going to be conflict because that’s what happens all throughout history. “Whoever did the least massacring is the good guys” is retarded.
  15. FriedCFour

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    Sure, it’s just for perspective. There’s no way it impacts your politics at all. And still you and everyone else who is in this thread has yet to even actually address the actual arguments made lol.
  16. FriedCFour

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    For me I’m just laughing at the guy who goes around saying “identity politics! Regressive left and regressive right both same!” Now saying that natives have ethnic lineage that gives them the claim and the right to a tie to land that supersedes whites because of time length and being first, ie...
  17. FriedCFour

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    I see you who says how bad identity politics are clearly valuing your identity in relation to politics.
  18. FriedCFour

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    No certain point of view. We built this into a country. Under what point of view could you say otherwise lol. I mean that’s silly. To delegitimize it just point out that the wars were won and they lost, and that there isn’t anything that makes native Americans different than any of the other...
  19. FriedCFour

    United States The United States and Immigration Policy

    An immigration moratorium doesn’t mean absolutely no one, but it’s close to it. Ie, you need to be like Elon Musk to immigrate. But there’s no reason to take anyone who isn’t going to be either a super unique skill set or someone highly wealthy. The vast majority of merit based immigration is...
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