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  1. Chiron

    Battle of Navarino is a decisive Ottoman Victory

    1. Take your pick of reasons. But mostly to stop any hint of irredentism. Instead of you know just going with the live and let live policy the Ottomans had and which the US via the 1st Amendment has. 2. Yeah a gaffe on my part. And thinking further with such a back slap to the Europeans...
  2. Chiron

    Battle of Navarino is a decisive Ottoman Victory

    Tsar Nicolas I wouldn't but he was alone. Britain and France only entered in because Nicolas' father who they convinced to back off, died. They were willing to throw the Morean Greeks under the bus after they massacred civilians first and invited Ottoman retaliation in the process. A defeat in...
  3. Chiron

    Battle of Navarino is a decisive Ottoman Victory

    Nope the Ottomans were winning at this point and a decisive victory at Navarino means fresh reinforcements arrive from Egypt to finish the job. This also means the French Morea expedition doesn't occur. So the 1st Greek Republic dies in Morea and the Ottomans permanently solve the issue via...
  4. Chiron

    Battle of Navarino is a decisive Ottoman Victory

    Revolt crushed in Morea, Greeks in Morea are executed or sold into slavery largely based on age and sex, loyal Greeks convert to Islam, Muslim settlers placed in Morea.
  5. Chiron

    Battle of Navarino is a decisive Ottoman Victory

    The Brits were kicked out of Louisiana and their attempts to form puppet Indian States were destroyed and the tribes in question wiped out. British forces in Florida were evicted and Spain decided to take a payment and slink away. US fishing rights in St. Lawrence were granted. And each day the...
  6. Chiron

    Battle of Navarino is a decisive Ottoman Victory

    We here in America say hi, Brits how well did your last shooting spat go with us. Brits: Walk over elsewhere. Well that said, their goal isn't to get the Ottomans out of Greece, but have an autonomous Greek vassal under the Ottomans. Which wound up not working as they wanted it to as the...
  7. Chiron

    Battle of Navarino is a decisive Ottoman Victory

    The battle in question Lady Luck decides to make the Ottoman's her pet that day and their opening volley demasts the entire European Fleet and knocks out their main guns and the Ottomans force their surrender shortly afterwards. 10 ships of the line and 10 frigates are taken as prizes and the...
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