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  1. Chiron

    What if Alien Space Bats replace Europe in 1878 with virgin earth?

    Yes, now certainly Hazara's on the bad side of the Taliban will certainly be killed. Those who sided with the Taliban are safe, largely due to Iranian back room dealing to secure its own interests and ensure US Forces have no bases in Afghanistan with which to attack them from. Nazis were...
  2. Chiron

    What if Alien Space Bats replace Europe in 1878 with virgin earth?

    They won so quickly because Iran in a rare moment of cooperation that Bush squandered, provided targeting data and all known Taliban HQs to the US which they had gained after years of overflights for the Northern Alliance. The bombing campaign was going nowhere up to that point as the USAF was...
  3. Chiron

    What if Alien Space Bats replace Europe in 1878 with virgin earth?

    A minority of the Taliban went to Pakistan or came from Pakistan which follows a diametrically opposed Deobandi School of thought, the bulk remained in country, fighting in the Spring-Summer, going home for Winter. Also the US and Afghan Government routinely targeted the Civilian Population and...
  4. Chiron

    What if Alien Space Bats replace Europe in 1878 with virgin earth?

    They threw in the towel, the Taliban did not, they nearly did, but Bush said no. So they continued to fight. If either Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan continued to fight it out in a protracted guerrilla campaign like the Turks did and the Reds did after WW1, they would still be around. Though...
  5. Chiron

    What if Alien Space Bats replace Europe in 1878 with virgin earth?

    In that case, if they make it your problem, you grab a bat and beat the shit out of all of them.
  6. Chiron

    What if Alien Space Bats replace Europe in 1878 with virgin earth?

    Opinion because most of the Japanese Archives got burnt to ashes. We can argue the scraps here to doomsday unless someone finds something buried somewhere. The idiots win, because they are too stupid to call it quits. After all, who is currently in charge of Afghanistan? Get two kids on the...
  7. Chiron

    What if Alien Space Bats replace Europe in 1878 with virgin earth?

    Note I stated they appeared to withdraw, they kept some off the record forces on Taiwan forcing China to basically hold coastal enclaves as the Japanese fought a proxy war which is what brought the French in. Fortunately for China there was a more competent commander in charge. A commander who...
  8. Chiron

    What if Alien Space Bats replace Europe in 1878 with virgin earth?

    My friend, history is replete with stupid people with stupid ideals turning out not to be so stupid. The US was formed because several angry elites didn't like to pay taxes to afford the British Army's protection during the French and Indian War. Which was a stupid reason to go to war and most...
  9. Chiron

    What if Alien Space Bats replace Europe in 1878 with virgin earth?

    The Chinese are opportunists, and Russian hold on the Far East and Siberia is shaky and the Chinese can win a war of attrition if nothing else. Mongols would like a word with you. So would the Turks, Arabs, and a lot of other folks who had shit to begin with and overturned the world order out...
  10. Chiron

    What if Alien Space Bats replace Europe in 1878 with virgin earth?

    So? It was a necessary industrial component since the 9th century CE. Also Transoxania coal was well known and used in the 10th century by the way. And in the 1870s the Qajars were mining coal which they were quite rich in with surface seams that were readily accessible and building industry to...
  11. Chiron

    What if Alien Space Bats replace Europe in 1878 with virgin earth?

    Whatever they can get. If they see a chance to de bellatio Chile, they will take it.
  12. Chiron

    What if Alien Space Bats replace Europe in 1878 with virgin earth?

    No, Argentina fights for Argentina, fuck Peru and Bolivia.
  13. Chiron

    What if Alien Space Bats replace Europe in 1878 with virgin earth?

    Indeed and if Argentina is getting substantial Spanish Forces defecting to it, they are going to try and pre-empt it.
  14. Chiron

    What if Alien Space Bats replace Europe in 1878 with virgin earth?

    They went to war with Bolivia and Peru one year after this POD and made Bolivia a landlocked nation. So yes.
  15. Chiron

    What if Alien Space Bats replace Europe in 1878 with virgin earth?

    They could but Argentina is the stronger nation in the south with a Spanish heritage and is starting to get into a pissing contest with Chile. So it would have a sweet deal for Spanish Ships willing to defect. Which in turn may lead to an Argentine-Chilean War.
  16. Chiron

    What if Alien Space Bats replace Europe in 1878 with virgin earth?

    Yes, but also seizing the carcass of the Ottoman Empire, complete control of the Persian Gulf, Iraq, Levant, and Egypt. Mexico I am not sure about, but Argentina would be a stronger nation to go to.
  17. Chiron

    What if Alien Space Bats replace Europe in 1878 with virgin earth?

    They break away and become independent powers in their own right again. But China will be too busy with Japan to go that way. Depending on Qajar priorities, they may move to vassalize them at some point. Thinking more on things, I wonder how many Portuguese might defect to the Empire of Brazil...
  18. Chiron

    What if Alien Space Bats replace Europe in 1878 with virgin earth?

    Kerosene engines and lamps were already in use at this time, and gas lines were already laid decades prior to this. Hell the Chinese were millennia ahead of the West in using bamboo pipes to deliver gas and brine to homes to light lamps. And the oil industry followed this development...
  19. Chiron

    What if Alien Space Bats replace Europe in 1878 with virgin earth?

    IQ is within "western" ranges. What is needed is strong competent government combined with smart investments in infrastructure and the ability to do organized violence better than its opponents. The "West" after all didn't win on ideals, it won upon being better at organized violence. The...
  20. Chiron

    What if Alien Space Bats replace Europe in 1878 with virgin earth?

    Qajars had a shipbuilding industry and factories. Not to the extent of Japan much less the US, but it was there and investments into this can be increased. Not saying it will happen overnight. But a few centuries if the Qajars can maintain stable control will see them dominant. And it's not...
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