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So what do y'all think of the Duncan Lemp case, then? You think the cops were right in that case, too? :sneaky:

I do, too.

Wow, he actually agrees with me for the most part, right down to it being better to put the knee on the upper shoulder than on the neck, and the complete lack of compassion shown by the officer in question.

Hinting at someone's views which they expressed in another thread is not strawmanning.

Do not conflate not being allowed to used excessive force with not being allowed to use force in general. :mad:

Don't play coy.

Yes it did. Anyone could see that with their own eyes. Of course, I wouldn't expect you to be able to tell that given your other political views.

Quite a few people have said that and actually do end up dying from being asphyxiated, and at the time, the police said, just like these officers did, that they figured if the person could speak, that meant they could breathe, apparently not realizing that it's a lot easier to force air out of...

No, I'm saying that him being drugged up isn't an excuse for the police to act excessively. Him "dying anyway" isn't a "get out of jail free" card. Shooting someone who's dying of cancer or even falling to their death at that moment would still be murder. That seems like a really good way to...

And can you imagine how different things might have turned out had this actually been the case?

Bad cops keep getting defended and kept on while the good ones will get fired over bullshit, like, for example, making a video reminding cops that they took an oath to the Constitution and not their governor or mayor.

Him having drugs in his system doesn't mean kneeling on his neck was justified in any way, or that it caused him no harm.

:rolleyes: yeah, I'm sure kneeling on the man's neck was in no way harmful to his health and had zero impact on his eventual death.

I actually do think that cop should go to jail, for kneeling on his neck like that, as well as for the apparent pattern of abuses in his service. Just because I hate the commies doesn't mean I don't also want to see people in power who abuse their authority held to account for it. Lady Justice...