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  1. Buba

    Bismarck ISOTed to RMS Titanic - and U-234 Discussion Thread

    IMO those aristocrats were too full of themselves and overestimated their importance and knowledge. Politically the King of Great Britain was a nobody - at best he would be carrying an offer from his Cabinet. Also - peacetime conscription in the UK? Now that is ASB. This is idle chat of aristos...
  2. Buba

    Bismarck ISOTed to RMS Titanic - and U-234 Discussion Thread

    Yes, a good move. The USA will not embargo arms sales to the Entente because: - Wilson - it has no arms to sell The USA provided many things to the Entente, but weapons - apart from some small arms - were not on the list. Selling arms to belligerents does not break neutrality. Usually. Or if...
  3. Buba

    Bismarck ISOTed to RMS Titanic - and U-234 Discussion Thread

    The pre-WWI world is very different to that after it. The USA may be quite rich but has a smaller economy than the British Empire and is chiefly an exporter of farm produce. It was WWI - with accompanying self-destruction of European Powers - which put the USA on the road to world domination...
  4. Buba

    Bismarck ISOTed to RMS Titanic - and U-234 Discussion Thread

    Yes, please, build three or four battleships for every one of ours. Maybe five? Even better! Pretty please? Meanwhile we pour money into more howitzers and machineguns for the army as that is what really matters ... :) Or, to keep things nautical, one hundred U-Boots a year for three years ...
  5. Buba

    Bismarck ISOTed to RMS Titanic - and U-234 Discussion Thread

    Germany - light shell, high velocity, more accurate at shorter ranges Britain - heavy shell, medium velocity, more accurate at longer ranges The KM (regardless if the K stood for Kaiserliche or Kriegs) was certain that it will be fighting its battles in poor visibility in the North Sea. Because...
  6. Buba

    Bismarck ISOTed to RMS Titanic - and U-234 Discussion Thread

    I like Grosskampfschiff more than Grosslinienschiff But as I don't know the German language - my opinion is purely aesthetic :) London shipyard - can it build super-Dreadnaughts bigger than 30K tons? I thought that no battleships were built after the HMS Thunderer (aka "last cockney...
  7. Buba

    Bismarck ISOTed to RMS Titanic - and U-234 Discussion Thread

    Very true. 1 - the UK would have had a new, Tory, Government. The political calendar demanded an election in 1915 and I seriously doubt the Liberals winning - they've been in power for ten years already. I've seen it affirmed that a Conservative Gov't would had been more hawkish in foreign...
  8. Buba

    Bismarck ISOTed to RMS Titanic - and U-234 Discussion Thread

    Higher RoF based upon length of loading cycle is ilusionary. Actual RoF in combat was 3 shots every two minutes. This applies across the board to all guns and all navies. As to KM destroyers - my favourite is the T-22 :) Steel helmet - true. And anything the UTs say about it will be confirmed...
  9. Buba

    Bismarck ISOTed to RMS Titanic - and U-234 Discussion Thread

    Sorry for posting in story thread - moved: With Churchill being Churchill, I suggest dropping a hint or two that Bismark was constructed "in a secret place" - then watch German colonies be invaded by British "missionaries" with low knowledge of Scripture but high interest in waterfronts ...
  10. Buba

    Bismarck ISOTed to RMS Titanic - and U-234 Discussion Thread

    Oh, I know. It was the Russians and French who did.
  11. Buba

    Bismarck ISOTed to RMS Titanic - and U-234 Discussion Thread

    This is April 1912 - there still is time for Germany to amend the Army Law (bigger) and throw the planned amendment to the Fleet Law out the window. These were passed in May. With bigger budget the Army can be given more of the good stuff already in production, and some of the new toys. As in...
  12. Buba

    Bismarck ISOTed to RMS Titanic - and U-234 Discussion Thread

    This is complicated. The six ships of the "I" class were armoured cruisers with battleship armament. Their job was to kill cruisers. Putting them in harms' way was a mistake. The German ships, and British ones with 13,5" and larger guns, were indeed battleships sacrificing one turret and some...
  13. Buba

    Bismarck ISOTed to RMS Titanic - and U-234 Discussion Thread

    Hi to you too :) I miss your posts on AH (where I lurk for obvious reasons :)) We will have to disagree on the merits of the Bismark :) I've read that using Gross Kreuzer - instead of the Schlachtkreuzer calque from English - was driven by semantics. The Naval Laws said so and so many ships of...
  14. Buba

    Bismarck ISOTed to RMS Titanic - and U-234 Discussion Thread

    OK, will transfer my post here, deleting the one defiling the "story only" thread :) BTW maybe add such a warning? Or maybe make it more visible (I missed it if there was one). What is it about the Bismark, the worst of all Treaty/post-Treaty battleships, that makes it interesting? British...
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