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  1. Bear Ribs

    Science What are your thoughts on so called Light Pollution

    So, has it stayed cloudy a whole week straight now?
  2. Bear Ribs

    Science What are your thoughts on so called Light Pollution

    This is true, and to an extent it's important to realize that we need to tolerate a certain amount of pollution in order to have a functional society. I'm mainly railing against the claim that there is no such thing as light pollution, or that it's no problem at all, not saying we need to...
  3. Bear Ribs

    Science What are your thoughts on so called Light Pollution

    Sure, that's reasonable.
  4. Bear Ribs

    Science What are your thoughts on so called Light Pollution

    Ha ha! Oh man, this is hilarious. That's a sign you're suffering from high levels of light pollution. The sky appears darker the more sky glow you're suffering from as the stars are washed out and you can't see the faint galactic clouds anymore. Just go ahead and take your picture, I'm...
  5. Bear Ribs

    Science What are your thoughts on so called Light Pollution

    No, I presented actual scientific studies in my list, you fail to do so. You've got some stuff by people selling LEDs or promoting them, and one by the actually reliable Dark Sky Association... which you clearly didn't read since it undercuts your point. Concerns about blue light reach far...
  6. Bear Ribs

    Science What are your thoughts on so called Light Pollution

    As compared to your big nothing whatsoever? But fine, I'm used to arguing with bad-faith actors who sit back and demand I prove everything while presenting only the lowest-effort anecdotes themselves. My anecdote is worth just as much as yours, the difference being I have more than just...
  7. Bear Ribs

    Science What are your thoughts on so called Light Pollution

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/light-pollution-energy-LED-bulbs-spd https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/23/16693914/energy-leds-boost-light-pollution-worldwide https://www.igb-berlin.de/en/news/led-lamps-save-energy-and-money-increase-light-pollution You've got absolutely...
  8. Bear Ribs

    Science What are your thoughts on so called Light Pollution

    No, you're just running away from the actual discussion by deflecting elsewhere to the ocean suddenly, it has nothing to do with what you quoted and certainly does nothing to prove your assertion that there's no light pollution, much less your absurd claim that cities don't produce any light...
  9. Bear Ribs

    Science What are your thoughts on so called Light Pollution

    Nice deflection.
  10. Bear Ribs

    Science What are your thoughts on so called Light Pollution

    "My rando unprovable anecdote totally overrides all common sense and known science, as based on my faulty understanding of how the terms I'm using work." Yeah, that area is Bortle Scale 4-6 which is some fairly bad levels of sky glow. It's always possible you're nestled in a specific set of...
  11. Bear Ribs

    Science What are your thoughts on so called Light Pollution

    Untrue. You may not be able to directly see the city light itself if a tree is in the way, but Sky Glow is increased by the haze and clouds of forested lands, which reflect light pollution around instead of letting it go into space the way deserts do. Deserts have the least effects from light...
  12. Bear Ribs

    Science What are your thoughts on so called Light Pollution

    This is Phoenix, AZ from 55 miles away at night.
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