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  1. Bear Ribs

    Starfleet vs UNSC Ground Troops

    No, my entire point is that the grenades exist. I've provided numerous examples of them existing and that's really all I cared about. I mostly grew offended at Battlegrinder deciding he personally was the arbiter of everything and got to decide what was and was not canon, with AR-558 put as...
  2. Bear Ribs

    Starfleet vs UNSC Ground Troops

    We have to conclude against a thing that actually happened in the show. Also, you're not allowed to come to conclusions against what happened on the show. The irony here is thick enough to mine. So you snipped the part where you were wrong about the grenades existing, the bit that, y'know, the...
  3. Bear Ribs

    Starfleet vs UNSC Ground Troops

    If that was, rightly, the claim I wouldn't have gotten ticked enough to jump into the thread. Note the second sentence is Battlegrinder claiming there is no air support doctrine at all. I'll accept correction on which person, I accidentally linked the wrong pic. However those are indeed...
  4. Bear Ribs

    Starfleet vs UNSC Ground Troops

    Again, you assume that a vague "almost finished" is the same as finished unloading everything, and that the Defiant, a dedicated space-combat superiority ship, has the same bulk transport as Voyager, a long-range science vessel. No, I'm not being uncharitable or misreading your argument. Nobody...
  5. Bear Ribs

    Starfleet vs UNSC Ground Troops

    TNG Q-Who, Riker gouges a crater that looks to be half as deep as Worf's knee and also about half his height wide out of solid stone. Note, that's a type 1, the smallest and weakest phaser of all. In TNG Chain Of Command we see a type 2, the phaser pistol which is slightly larger, vaporize...
  6. Bear Ribs

    Starfleet vs UNSC Ground Troops

    See, the problem is that all your arguments revolve around the same thing, you guess, maybe, grenades wouldn't make it any worse. Then you extrapolate all kinds of limitations based on your guess. It's becoming increasingly apparent as you keep moving the goalposts that everything comes down...
  7. Bear Ribs

    Starfleet vs UNSC Ground Troops

    Yes, totally a mystery why they wouldn't use hand grenades in the corridors on board a starship... Outside of those, or away missions that are generally not soldiers going into combat, what do you have? Siege of AR-558? They were stated to have been 5 months without resupply and only had 43...
  8. Bear Ribs

    Starfleet vs UNSC Ground Troops

    The problem I'm having with the reasoning in this thread is that the pro-UNSC side is mostly bent on claiming ST won't use abilities it's demonstrated to have, because they "didn't use it these other times." The issue there is that if they've ever used it once, they have demonstrated they have...
  9. Bear Ribs

    Starfleet vs UNSC Ground Troops

    You're arguing that a critical planned military operation with a Galaxy-class and an Akira will be less capable of organization and have less support than a single Intrepid with Insaneway at the helm would?
  10. Bear Ribs

    Starfleet vs UNSC Ground Troops

    I can't see how. A shuttle comes down and provides fire support and protection to a dude on the ground. Pretty well establishes that, in fact, they will send shuttles to come down and provide support and protection to dudes on the ground.
  11. Bear Ribs

    Starfleet vs UNSC Ground Troops

    My dude, I have no horse in this race and no idea what Halo's like to have an informed opinion. But you literally just posted that you can't think of any time shuttles or fighters acting as CAS and a video of a shuttle doing CAS in the same post.
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