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There is no meaningful difference between "all the battles are wrong" and "99% of the battles are wrong". I'm not seeing how "well, the portrayal is flawed" doesn't translate to "throw out the scene" in cases like this. I think that gets things backwards, the purpose of the setting is to...

That feels like a bit of a Motte and Bailey, there's a clear difference between "hey, this one event in this episode doesn't make sense per what's been established in prior episodes, it shouldn't have happened like that" and "all of the space battles are wrong because the writer's guide implies...

I'm not sure how you specifically can argue for something being a plot hole, since calling something a plot hole requires admitting that a specific event or line of dialogue played out precisely as we saw it, something your method precludes doing. This is, as I thing I've said before, my core...

We also know the TM is just a fictional document they churned out to make money, and the writers guides were just that, guides, ones that the staff frequently ignored (eg, the guide no doubt mentions that shuttles have transporters built into them, but the writers are constantly forgetting that...

I didn't mean to say it was, I meant it's something the size of a scout ship. I think you're misunderstanding me. The point isn't that the Defiant is the most dangerous ship in any given formation, the point is that it's a disproportionately dangerous one and it doesn't have the shield...

A T-62M is far more powerful than an orginal generation T-62, but it's still a third or fourth rate tank. Because for ships, casualties should be rough in proportion to overall damage, since the primary way to cause crew casualties is to damage to ship.

Yes, but that doesn't say much, the Excelsior class was several generations out of date, having a lot of firepower for a ship of that vintage doesn't establish anything definitive. The Defiant has a crew of 50, the Lakota had ten times that. With 2 vs 24 dead, that's almost an identical...

Home front took place in 2372. By that time, in addition to the Galaxy, Nebula, and Ambassador classes, the Sovereign class was in service, along with the Akira and a number of other more tactically focused classes. An excelsior, upgraded or otherwise, would have been an outright joke to most...

There is no evidence to suggest the Lakota was any more capable than an other ship of it's tonnage, and some to the reverse. Upgrades or not, there is a limit to what you can do to an older ship to keep it up to par. Power generation comes to mind, you can only do so much with the stock reactors...

Ugh, because talking up one perpetually overrated ship wasn't enough for the thread. The Defiant is a a set of engines with guns strapped to them (or possibly the reverse), and it is impressive that startfleet was able to fit the sort of firepower that's usually mounted on a light cruiser on...

Bold of you to assume I admit Picard is canon. Though more seriously, I'm not sure what that proves? I was listing how long a design lasted before being superseded by a larger, more powerful ship class, not how long the entire class is in service. The Excelsior stuck around for a while after...

I'm a bit less sold on that, given the real reason the Excelsior "stuck around" for so long was because it took the show until like season 4 to get the budget for a new model miniature, and until then they were stuck with just the ones they already had on hand. In universe, yes the Excelsior...

It was a good episode and made a degree of sense (not a lot, usually ST time travel doesn't result in the timeline being altered like this, but whatever, time travel is plot device). It does undermine ST VI a bit by essentially saying it was irrelevant and the real moment that cemented the...