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  1. Battlegrinder

    2nd Civil War Theorycrafting Thread, Peaches Free

    Ok, there is a huge difference between "I don't like Trump, he made a lot of mistakes and was overall a poor fit for the role" and "one guy at a rally had a nazi flag, clearly all of his supporters are like that guy". The point of bring up Europe was to note that the idea there is any such...
  2. Battlegrinder

    2nd Civil War Theorycrafting Thread, Peaches Free

    Trump's base are not the people waving around nazi flags or doing what the nazis did. Certainly those people exist, but as a tiny, tiny minority that in no way represents the entire group, anymore than the guys on the left waving around the communist flag and insisting that true communism has...
  3. Battlegrinder

    2nd Civil War Theorycrafting Thread, Peaches Free

    That's not really possible. Judges don't have the expertise to do that sort of thing, and it goes against basic fundamentals of government to go "well, you don't actually have the authority to do this, but your reasoning holds up, carry on". A fundamental point of the federal constitution was to...
  4. Battlegrinder

    2nd Civil War Theorycrafting Thread, Peaches Free

    This is the line of logic that the Biden admin used to support it's CDC eviction ban or the OSHA vsx mandate, which did indeed look like public health measures but were only legally justified under logic that would allow those agencies to do literally anything under the vague mandate of "public...
  5. Battlegrinder

    2nd Civil War Theorycrafting Thread, Peaches Free

    What's the substantive difference between taxes and a mob protection racket? Someone's taking your money against your will via the threat of force, and that money was taken to use for the benefit of themselves and their organization, and in theory some of what that organization does benefits you...
  6. Battlegrinder

    2nd Civil War Theorycrafting Thread, Peaches Free

    In this case, the identity of that provision was a fee charged to people as a punishment for not owning insurance, justified within the law as an extension of Congress's ability to regulate commerce. Congress absolutely does not have the authority to compell you to engage in commerce of any...
  7. Battlegrinder

    2nd Civil War Theorycrafting Thread, Peaches Free

    No. Congress can only pass laws within the narrow set of inumerated powers it was given by the constitution, regardless of the substantial benefits of passing that law or how well it conforms to the general ideals of the constitution. Even in the post Wickard va Filburn era where the commerce...
  8. Battlegrinder

    2nd Civil War Theorycrafting Thread, Peaches Free

    While those people certainly exist, they're a minority, and they're hardly confided to just Trump. Lots of people have Robert Muller prayer candles gathering dust in thier cabinets, or for the most direct counterexample, look at how hagiographic parts of the left acted toward Obama, and still do...
  9. Battlegrinder

    2nd Civil War Theorycrafting Thread, Peaches Free

    I would dispute the "as a god" part, he certainly has a certain cult of personality but let's try to be reasonable in describing it. As for the actual fraud claim, I would say there are two different arguments being made, and that many people will mix up the two or not clearly articulate them...
  10. Battlegrinder

    2nd Civil War Theorycrafting Thread, Peaches Free

    Technically, the court doesn't have to strike down the entire statue, the statue itself is invalidated under it's own terms as if it was repealed by the legislature, but the result is the same, and courts cannot just ignore those provisions, particularly not in cases like this. The constitution...
  11. Battlegrinder

    2nd Civil War Theorycrafting Thread, Peaches Free

    It would depend heavily on the exact circumstances of the case. Bush vs Gore didn't end the existence of the US government, after all. And the SC arguably should have been more involved in this election than it was, by doing stuff like smacking down the Pennsylvania SC's meddling in election...
  12. Battlegrinder

    2nd Civil War Theorycrafting Thread, Peaches Free

    Ok, New thread is done. first off all, Hello, various federal agencies. You Suck. Secondly: We've enjoyed air superiority in every war we've fought since aircraft existed, and in most of them we had outright air supremacy particularly in the various post WW2 conflicts. It won exactly none...
  13. Battlegrinder

    2nd Civil War Theorycrafting Thread, Peaches Free

    How exactly does being born in and growing up in a country not mean they have the same cultural foundation as you, when they grew up immersed in that culture just like you did? After all, you have no ties to England beyond beyond born there either, clearly that's not the dividing factor, and if...
  14. Battlegrinder

    2nd Civil War Theorycrafting Thread, Peaches Free

    That's not quite fair Sane, they've fought this as they possibly can. They ranted about it on twitter and facebook, they laughed at all the right jokes Colbert made, there was that whole He Will Not Divide Us thing, they made every personal interaction with them as insufferable as possible, etc...
  15. Battlegrinder

    2nd Civil War Theorycrafting Thread, Peaches Free

    I vaguely recall hearing about some ultra-orthodox sect forming their own unoffical police gang and harrassing people who dress immodestly and the like, but I don't for sure recall where that happened specifically. I know Israeli has issues with that type of thing, but I think this was something...
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