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  1. Battlegrinder

    Trump's Attempt at Middle East Peace Plan for Palestine and Israel

    Pretty much. If this was happening anywhere else, there would have been some slight grumbling by the international community, a short, ugly bit of slaughter, and then it would be relegated to a few paragraphs in the history books and forgotten by the public at large.
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    Trump's Attempt at Middle East Peace Plan for Palestine and Israel

    There are choices between "nothing" and "genocide". For example, right now Isreal is extremely careful when retaliating against rocket or mortar strikes. They could easily decide not to do so, and just plaster any launch site with artillery the second they detect a launch. They can start...
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    Trump's Attempt at Middle East Peace Plan for Palestine and Israel

    I feel like you're reading a lot more into that than what it said. There's certainly going to be a lot less give on the Israeli side and lot more "take the deal we offer you now or else" style negotiations, but a war of annihilation or "doing what has to be done" is off the table. Israel doesn't...
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    Trump's Attempt at Middle East Peace Plan for Palestine and Israel

    This sounds less like a "peace plan" and more of a "the Palestinians will never agree to any kind of peace, so screw'em" plan. Which.....I guess has a degree of logic behind it.
  5. Battlegrinder

    Trump's Attempt at Middle East Peace Plan for Palestine and Israel

    While this is an interesting subject and there's plenty to talk about when it comes to racial issues in the US, that may be a subject best save for another thread.
  6. Battlegrinder

    Trump's Attempt at Middle East Peace Plan for Palestine and Israel

    Israeli's current border wall seems to be working at addressing the latter issue, and thier anti missile/mortar systems are nearly as good and rapidly improving. Given that, I don't see the need for any serious cross border offensives or operations, aside from.the occasional air strike or the like.
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    Trump's Attempt at Middle East Peace Plan for Palestine and Israel

    I don't necessarily agree that an occupation would be needed this scenario. Why couldn't Israeli just crush the Palestinian military and let them sort out how to rebuild? We didn't have to occupy Iraq after we smashed it in the gulf war. You say that like there'd be any difference compared to...
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    Trump's Attempt at Middle East Peace Plan for Palestine and Israel

    What reason would anyone have to do that? Heck, who would even want to do that?
  9. Battlegrinder

    Trump's Attempt at Middle East Peace Plan for Palestine and Israel

    While a lasting peace sounds nice, I doubt this will be it. I lack the background to actually evaluate the merits of this plan specifically, but any peace plan requires both sides actually want peace, and I don't think the Palestinians do. Sure, their allies in the middle east might not be as...
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