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  1. Bacle

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    Well, the 'energy reproachment' faction in Russia and Germany had been making noises about keeping Europe as an energy customer before then. After that, well, they couldn't make the money selling gas to Europe anymore the easy way they had been before, with only 1 of 4 pipes able to function...
  2. Bacle

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    They've got the boat's transponder data and it seems it checks out; it was all over the area of the pipelines for a bit. Also way more plausible and understandable for Ukrainian supporters to have blown the pipes as a strike against Russia (and maybe against the Ru agents in Berlin).
  3. Bacle

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    So 6 people invovled total, 2 divers, and the explosives were dumped on the pipeline from a Ukrainian owned yacht rented in Poland.
  4. Bacle

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    So, I guess this isn't a huge surprise. The articles specifically say that these were likely a mix of independent Russian and Ukrainian nationals, not acting under direction from Kyiv or Zelensky, and more acting in opposition to Putin and in sympathy to Ukraine. Wetwork gonna wetwork, and...
  5. Bacle

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    On the issue of the pipeline story, I want to point out a couple of things that make it seem unlikely and smell like bullshit. 1) Methane Hydrate build up in the pipes can cause them to burst in an explosive fashion, and anyone want to bet on how well Russia had maintained those pipes? Anyone...
  6. Bacle

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    Or maybe, just maybe, I want more than a single source with a lot of theorizing and little actual evidence. Now, should further evidence come up, I am willing to adjust my views; something like what I found below helps a little...
  7. Bacle

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    Because nature has a say too; sharks in particular. https://www.wired.co.uk/article/shark-cables Sharks have been found chewing on underwater cables enough to cause damage/service loss/degradation, or on other subsea infrastructure, and is is something found happpening all over the world...
  8. Bacle

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    'White Nationalist/White Supremacist'
  9. Bacle

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    Yeah, this sounds like a lot of hot air and bullshit stirring. Hersh may have cred from the Mai Lai and Abu Ghrab, but I need a lot more than his word for this, particulalry when the entire article is basically has a 'bro, trust me'-tier citation to it, with the 'according to a source' bit...
  10. Bacle

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    It's worth reminding people that if Russia was innocent on this matter, they wouldn't be pushing more gas into the pipeline.
  11. Bacle

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    Germany won't be freezing their ass's off, they have plenty of wood burning stoves still, lots of lumber, their natgas supplies were 85% full in August, and the new pipeline from Norway to the mainland is delivering a new supply of gas to Europe. Russia's attempt to freeze out Germany...
  12. Bacle

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    Your mistake is treating Putin's Russia as a rational actor, when they quite clearly aren't. There is no reason to increase the pressure in the pipeline at this point except in order to hinder repairs. If Russia was innocent in this, they would be cutting off the gas flow till repairs can be...
  13. Bacle

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    Russia seems to be increasing pressure in some of the pipes... If Russia was innocent in this matter, they wouldn't be increasing the pressure in the pipeline, which further delays repairs to it.
  14. Bacle

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    AKA ignore the evidence presented because it shows I didn't pull the numbers out of my ass. But please, keep showing what a petty, foolish Vatnik-lover you are. Maybe Papa Putin will leave you a dacha in his will. Edit: Here's someone data to prove that the 'Russia needed NS1/2 to threaten...
  15. Bacle

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    https://thedeepdive.ca/germany-sees-gas-reserves-reaching-85-a-month-ahead-of-schedule-but-is-it-enough/ German reserves were at 85% in August.
  16. Bacle

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    Except Germany is already full up of reserves for the winter, and thus additional natgas from the pipelines would be 'nice to have', not 'difference between freezing and living this winter'. Additional gas would also have been under the contracts that these blasts can now render 'void by act of...
  17. Bacle

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    This operates on the idea that Russia is a 'rational actor', when the last half-year shows they are very much not. It also relies on the assumption that Russia didn't blow this specifically to try to throw blame on the US. But you still think I'm a Leftist, so you obviously don't have a great...
  18. Bacle

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    No, my opinions are formed based on what I know and believe; if I cared about being the 'good guy' to the Left and Dems, I would have never come out for the GOP at all. I also listen to more than just the Right-Wing echochamber, so I know how things look from the outside, even if not going...
  19. Bacle

    Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

    No, the brain bug is "The West is controlled by globohomo/the Left, Russia is so 'trad' and blameless for this war happening." shit that parts of the Right have fallen into. Also, it's not Ukraine using nuclear power plants as arty bases, it's not Ukraine that used Chernobyl as an armored...
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