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I don't, for the most part. But I also don't live within 100 ft of them, or have seen them as almost a second father in the past, and haven't seen them as examples of almost model GOP members. You are right that my world view has been rocked, and it may be affecting me more than I want to admit.

Yep, because we do not follow either sides ideals dogmatically, and break bubbles on both sides. It's getting to the point both sides are simply dismissing or ignoring the concerns of centrists as 'lies' simply because we care more about our country than about either sides ideology. The reason...

You asked what I, and people who may be in the center/left of center, see as problems in the right. What you call leftist lies I call real concerns for people on the fence. Because it may seem like those are all lies, but I've seen enough to know thier are kernals of truth to them and not all...

They do not want you or me dead, at least the ones I'm talking about. They are good people who have blinders on, and have been heavily indoctrinated. And guess what, I went to a liberal arts school to get my General Geology degree, I know very fucking well what goes on there. I'm a lone...

Sorry for double posting. Because the problem is that they don't feel people are upset enough about George Floyd's murder, and see the rioting/looting as a natural outgrowth of peaceful protests by the oppressed. Many may be doing it because of pressure, but many have been heavily indoctrinated...

The problem is that people like Invictus and others keep thinking anyone left of center is Far Left, while giving a pass to the problems on the right or just refusing to call them out. And harping on the religion/lack of religion angle like he and other conservative do just alienates other...

As much as we bitch about echochambers on the left, I cannot help but feel this place is developing one of its own in regards to why people left of center think how they do. Because I can tell you, @Lord Invictus doesn't really understand the other side, and is giving you all a false impression...