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  1. Bacle

    Israel, Hamas, War Crimes and the Geneva Suggestions

    Israel has options besides the US, if the US decides to abandon Israel because they are trying to resolve an issue for good, instead of letting a catspaw linger as a knife in their side. There is a reason they have so much French gear and have for a long time. And the US cannot really fuck with...
  2. Bacle

    Israel, Hamas, War Crimes and the Geneva Suggestions

    You seem to forget Netanyahu has compared what will happen to Hamas to Almeck. Did you forget what historical/biblical enemies of the Jews had happen to them on repeat occasions; they get wiped off the map by military force or natural events. Israel just needs to act more like the people that...
  3. Bacle

    Israel, Hamas, War Crimes and the Geneva Suggestions

    That Hamas wants to kill every Jew in the world doesn't matter to Abhorsen, only the theory of the Geneva Conventions and other pseudo-legalistic bullshit that allows him to preen about his own 'moral superiority'. Like, there is a great line from Javik in ME3 that applies to wars against...
  4. Bacle

    Israel, Hamas, War Crimes and the Geneva Suggestions

    This is you misrepresenting the conventions and how old they are. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/geneva_conventions_and_their_additional_protocols https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions The Conventions originate in 1864, but were updated in 1929 and then in 1949, so to say they...
  5. Bacle

    Israel, Hamas, War Crimes and the Geneva Suggestions

    Hmm, if ROE was broken, then yeah, inquiry into it is going to happen. There was nothing about the ROE being broken before now, and Israeli ROE isn't the Geneva Convention. Also, the issue of fake surrenders is something that is historically documented. Edit: Also, suicide belts weren't...
  6. Bacle

    Israel, Hamas, War Crimes and the Geneva Suggestions

    That was written with things like the French Foreign Legion in mind, or Volunteer Units not officially part of any nation. You know, uniformed combatants with international presence's. It was not written with things like terrorist groups, criminal gangs, or pirates in mind. So unless you want...
  7. Bacle

    Israel, Hamas, War Crimes and the Geneva Suggestions

    See, you are still acting like the Geneva Conventions applies to Hamas, when they have not signed it, and in fact have broken it's laws pretty much on a daily basis. The Geneva Convention only applies to states that have signed and ratified the document and to uniformed personnel, no amount of...
  8. Bacle

    Israel, Hamas, War Crimes and the Geneva Suggestions

    That you think the Geneva Conventions actually does hold to terrorists and the like is the real moronic thing here. Then again you consider taxes 'theft', and pretend Wagner shooting Ukrainian who are surrendering to Wagner and getting executed is the same as what the IDF faces in Gaza with...
  9. Bacle

    Israel, Hamas, War Crimes and the Geneva Suggestions

    Yes, context does turn this into a tragic friendly fire accident, which I have mentioned already. Also, you have not shown where Hamas signed the Geneva Conventions, only asserted that Israel must treat them under it regardless of if they have signed, rather than treat them as the terrorist...
  10. Bacle

    Israel, Hamas, War Crimes and the Geneva Suggestions

    Show me where Hamas signed the Geneva Conventions, and show me where Ukraine has been issuing suicide belts to it's forces for Wagner to worry about. But hey, since when has context ever gotten in the way of your grudge with me over your desire to push your morality on everyone else and every...
  11. Bacle

    Israel, Hamas, War Crimes and the Geneva Suggestions

    And here you show the real crux of it; you expect Israeli's to die as much as needed to maintain some stupid and deluded sense of your personal morality, which you always try to foist onto others in debates. It's the same sentiment that so many in the west have had, that Israel isn't allowed to...
  12. Bacle

    Israel, Hamas, War Crimes and the Geneva Suggestions

    This is an active warzone, where the civies have been told to leave and the people who are usually 'surrendering' are Hamas, other jihadis members, or their UN patsies. It's a tragedy and a friendly fire incident, not a war crime. Context matters, no matter how much you try to force the rest...
  13. Bacle

    Israel, Hamas, War Crimes and the Geneva Suggestions

    This isn't a war crime, it is a tragedy brought on by conditions like those that US forces faced in the fight with the Japanese and their suicide methods like grenades, dynamite, and sometimes 500lbs bombs for anti-tank work. Fake surrenders are a thing. Hamas and other jihadi groups are...
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