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  1. Aldarion

    Middle Earth Military Discussion Thread

    OK, just what the fuck? When did I say that Middle Earth as a whole is a weak setting? Nowhere. But there is difference between Middle Earth as a setting and non-divine races of Middle Earth. If you include God and angels, Middle Earth shits all over the settings such as Warhammer 40k, Star...
  2. Aldarion

    Middle Earth Military Discussion Thread

    Most of what you wrote directly contradicts source material on fundamental levels. Such as your interpretation of the whole Valar vs Numenoreans issue. Riight. You tried denying not me, but TOLKIEN himself on several cases. So yeah. Except nothing is. Even things that you say which are...
  3. Aldarion

    Middle Earth Military Discussion Thread

    Good luck. And look into the mirror first. Nope. Infusing metal with magic =/= creating a new type of metal. Steel is still steel, regardless of whether it is normal dagger, Numenorean dagger or Nazgul dagger. Its physical properties did not change because it got infused with magical...
  4. Aldarion

    Middle Earth Military Discussion Thread

    They are called fisher-folk, why would you assume they are from warships? In fact, we have multiple groups that are clearly not professional soldiers among the reinforcements.
  5. Aldarion

    Middle Earth Military Discussion Thread

    You think your nonsense is oh-so-original? So you're lying then. OK. EDIT: Let me remind you what you wrote: Numenor with its solar powered light houses, metal able to damage intangible beings, military power so great the Valar asked their dad to fold the planet around them because they were...
  6. Aldarion

    Middle Earth Military Discussion Thread

    Yes. You know, if you are going to call something fallacious, you should also explain why it is so. Otherwise, I am under no obligation to actually respond to you. Where? I have read the novels and Silmarillion literally dozen times, and never come across almost any of it. So I can only...
  7. Aldarion

    Middle Earth Military Discussion Thread

    It is in every way comparable. Mythology and fantasy are both based on real world, with (typically) mostly normal humans, meaning that we can apply real world in every aspect in which they are not explicitly shown to differ from the real world. Illiad for example - demigods aside, it is...
  8. Aldarion

    Middle Earth Military Discussion Thread

    https://warfantasy.wordpress.com/2023/11/09/military-organization-of-gondor-expanded/
  9. Aldarion

    Middle Earth Military Discussion Thread

    Yeah, it is amazing how much Tolkien was able to imply with just a relatively short description.
  10. Aldarion

    Middle Earth Military Discussion Thread

    When we talk about ramming galleys specifically, you simply cannot use the same design for war and trade. Later on it became possible because naval combat turned to boarding actions, but ramming galleys had to be very narrow and very light, but with many rowers. Such a design left literally no...
  11. Aldarion

    Middle Earth Military Discussion Thread

    Not really. It all depends on what kind of ships they used. For a sailing ship such as seen in the North Sea (e.g. cog), it would merely be a matter of adding extra superstructure. But galleys - especially ramming galleys such as seen in antiquity - had significant differences between...
  12. Aldarion

    Middle Earth Military Discussion Thread

    Aragorn's attack was a surprise attack against ships in harbor. It might be possible they simply used modified civilian ships. And he didn't actually retake Umbar, he merely went in, burnt the ships, killed as many Corsairs as possible, and went home.
  13. Aldarion

    Middle Earth Military Discussion Thread

    Thorongil was Aragorn. And if I remember it right, it was outright stated that he could only get a small fleet because Gondor did not have much naval power. Also, look at Byzantine Empire at how quickly naval know-how can be lost: in 10th century they were a naval superpower, by 11th they had...
  14. Aldarion

    Middle Earth Military Discussion Thread

    Basically, a thread on discussing anything Middle-Earth/Tolkien related to war. I will begin by posting some links to the last article I wrote: https://militaryfantasysf.wordpress.com/2022/06/19/gondors-war-strategy/ And a question: we know Gondor had a navy only a few decades prior, so what...
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