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  1. Agent23

    Yesterday's enterprise vs. the actual TNG

    And even there, Weber had to account for things like 3D space and his ships had sensors and missiles and smaller ships working to screen and protect the bigger ones.
  2. Agent23

    Yesterday's enterprise vs. the actual TNG

    Might be more reliable than the TNG Galaxy-class. :ROFLMAO:
  3. Agent23

    Yesterday's enterprise vs. the actual TNG

    There is no wind in space, not in RL space or Trek space. The fact that he got some ideasdeom Hornblower novels does not mean the ship combat mechanics are 1-to-1.
  4. Agent23

    Yesterday's enterprise vs. the actual TNG

    Roddenberry died before most Trek we've seen was even made. ;)
  5. Agent23

    Yesterday's enterprise vs. the actual TNG

    Ok, Dude.It is idiotic to put your biggest and most valuable ships in the front, modern naval doctrine reflects this, Trek ships are not firing broadsides and are not limited by eyeball range. The entire logic of your theory is flawed and Trek ships work in groupings more akin to modern fleets...
  6. Agent23

    Yesterday's enterprise vs. the actual TNG

    Empty space is not the sea, but Trek space combat should follow the precepts of modern naval warfare more closely than something where the ships were heavily dependent on wind power for speed and direction. It is a 3D space where sensors play a major role and ships are free to turn 360 degrees...
  7. Agent23

    Yesterday's enterprise vs. the actual TNG

    I pick and choose nothing. Both Pukard and STD were awful crap that I could not stomach for more than 1-2 episodes.
  8. Agent23

    Yesterday's enterprise vs. the actual TNG

    Yeah, sure, because starships work more like ships of the line from the age of sail than modern day ships with radar, sonar, missiles and the like... You do realize that Roddenberry was dead when the later, more material seasons of TNG, DS9 and the later treks where we see lots of space combat...
  9. Agent23

    Yesterday's enterprise vs. the actual TNG

    Maybe because Roddenberry was an actual WWII military pilot when most carrier group tactics were pioneered. RDM IIRC was also a US naval officer for a while.
  10. Agent23

    Yesterday's enterprise vs. the actual TNG

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Carrier_Group_tactics#Fleet_formation In this case the Galaxy class is probably the HVU equivalent.
  11. Agent23

    Yesterday's enterprise vs. the actual TNG

    Galaxies were the type of heavy, expensive ship you do not push to the very front of the battle line, like modern carriers and pre WWII dreadnaughts. Most of the heavy lifting, raiding, and screening/escort stuff is done by the smaller and more numerous ships that can be replaced easily. A...
  12. Agent23

    Yesterday's enterprise vs. the actual TNG

    Oops, sorry about that, what I meant to say was. "OK, Dude!"
  13. Agent23

    Yesterday's enterprise vs. the actual TNG

    Yeah, Ok.
  14. Agent23

    Yesterday's enterprise vs. the actual TNG

    The Defiant is a destroyer, and it was the first of its class, while the Excelsior is, what, a cruiser or battle-cruiser? And that particular one was heavily upgraded, some of its systems might have been even newer than those on the Defiant, given that it was the flagship of an admiral with...
  15. Agent23

    Yesterday's enterprise vs. the actual TNG

    Didn't the Akira outlast it in that regard? As to its longevity, I think it managed to last so because it was the last ship developed during the time when the Federation was in actual real danger. Rugged, reliable and able to pack a decent punch, with all the latest tech of the day, probably...
  16. Agent23

    Yesterday's enterprise vs. the actual TNG

    Yamato is IIRC as old as TOS, which had sonic weapons in SPAACE. And also a kids show. Won'tbe the first time they have managed to shit the bed with the franchise...
  17. Agent23

    Yesterday's enterprise vs. the actual TNG

    You do realize the new stuff is written by hypsters that basically ripped off the plot of some indie videogame, have blue hair and nose piercings, and probably know more about MLP than they do about ships, right? I mean, we are talking the same geniuses that gave us SONAR IN SPACE and...
  18. Agent23

    Yesterday's enterprise vs. the actual TNG

    It is probably easier and cheaper to slap together deck and hull plates, though. Less stuff to fabricate and install usually means faster and cheaper process.
  19. Agent23

    Yesterday's enterprise vs. the actual TNG

    This is turning into The MST3King of Trek. :D Didn't the Feds have some form of structural integrity field, that basically made hulls harder to destroy though? Also, the ablative armor in Voyager appeared to do some good. I was thinking of a spinoff universe for those that like darker and...
  20. Agent23

    Yesterday's enterprise vs. the actual TNG

    I mean, we have much stronger materials now, the biggest problem with us using a hell of a lot more titanium for instance is that there isn't enough of the ore. The Federation has access to a lot more energy and better fabrication processes than we do, and potentially every singe asteroid in...
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