1. Agent23

    On the net, do you believe that Communism was a good deal or a bad deal for Eastern Europe, excluding the former Soviet space?

    Not exactly, much of society is determined by biology and to a lesser extent cultural tradition that evolved out of specific circumstances.
  2. Agent23

    On the net, do you believe that Communism was a good deal or a bad deal for Eastern Europe, excluding the former Soviet space?

    This is an extension of another conversation we had about neurological differences between the right and the left and on research I read in the Economist once upon a time. Leftoids are proven to have a genetic predisposition to wanting the biggest and broadest social organization with the least...
  3. Agent23

    On the net, do you believe that Communism was a good deal or a bad deal for Eastern Europe, excluding the former Soviet space?

    As I mentioned in my conversation with Marduk, which was hugely off topic, people are actually quite collectivist as a species. There are rightwing collectivists and left wing collectivists, just how there are self-serving individuals on both sides. The right collectivist wants to be part of a...
  4. Agent23

    On the net, do you believe that Communism was a good deal or a bad deal for Eastern Europe, excluding the former Soviet space?

    No, you were arguing that high taxes, in general, not just inheritance taxes, were causing businesses and businessmen to flee. Well, a 50% inheritance tax is frankly a lot better than a combined 26-27% tax on dividends and a 42+ percent tax on incomes, IMHO. Because the person that created the...
  5. Agent23

    On the net, do you believe that Communism was a good deal or a bad deal for Eastern Europe, excluding the former Soviet space?

    Um, you constantly try to make yourself out to be an authority on something... Nope, not how the conversation progressed.You were talking about high taxes disincentive productive and rich people to leave. I pointed out that the high German taxes were obviously not stifling innovation and...
  6. Agent23

    On the net, do you believe that Communism was a good deal or a bad deal for Eastern Europe, excluding the former Soviet space?

    We here think that Ukraine is to Russia what Macedonia is to US. Artificially created identity in lands that were once ours and populated by us. To us Macedonian is "south-western Bulgarian dialect written with a Serbian typewriter".With maybe a few bits of Serb thrown in.
  7. Agent23

    On the net, do you believe that Communism was a good deal or a bad deal for Eastern Europe, excluding the former Soviet space?

    Oh! Are you a lawyer now, one working with the German tax system? Weren't you in IT, or in the military? You claim that you are qualified to comment on a lot of stuff. Also, you cited inheritance taxes, not overall taxes. Maybe, but the manpower could be in Poland, energy and skilled manpower...
  8. Agent23

    On the net, do you believe that Communism was a good deal or a bad deal for Eastern Europe, excluding the former Soviet space?

    Better yet, just force Austria-Hungary to step back and let us kick the Serbs' teeth out.
  9. Agent23

    On the net, do you believe that Communism was a good deal or a bad deal for Eastern Europe, excluding the former Soviet space?

    No, I said that in Germany taxes were high overall. How come the majority of their family-owned businesses have not moved out, then? By your logic it should have been deindustrailized and stopped innovating long ago. The number of patents and the patents issued in Germany and the size of their...
  10. Agent23

    On the net, do you believe that Communism was a good deal or a bad deal for Eastern Europe, excluding the former Soviet space?

    Actually, we should blame Japan, the Russo-Japanese war set the stage for communism to take over in Russia as well as WWI. Their brutality in China discredited and damaged the Kuomintang and strengthened the commies. Their obsession with Just in time deliveries and hyper optimized supply chains...
  11. Agent23

    On the net, do you believe that Communism was a good deal or a bad deal for Eastern Europe, excluding the former Soviet space?

    Yeah, no. German tax on investments is massive, tax rate of 25% plus 5.5% solidarity surcharge (in total 26.375%, plus church tax if applicable) This applies for both dividends and sales.And taxes on incomes above 60k are over 42%. Or an ethnostate, you know like a bunch of homogeneous Asian...
  12. Agent23

    On the net, do you believe that Communism was a good deal or a bad deal for Eastern Europe, excluding the former Soviet space?

    Well, at least some of it has to do with the morally absolutist 'Shining City on a Hill' that the USA started pushing as a counter to Soviet Propaganda and as a rationale for some of their dumber stunts. However that all had its genesis in the mind of a megalomaniacal prick called Woodrow...
  13. Agent23

    On the net, do you believe that Communism was a good deal or a bad deal for Eastern Europe, excluding the former Soviet space?

    They are morons chasing a few extra dimes and politicians looking some extra votes and virtue signalling celebs looking for likes. However that is a symptom of the disease, not the source of the disease itself. The source of the disease came into prominence in the 60s, with the massively...
  14. Agent23

    On the net, do you believe that Communism was a good deal or a bad deal for Eastern Europe, excluding the former Soviet space?

    Germany is a very high tax country, and all of the families that own their Mittelstandt and bigger companies certainly haven't left. There are tons of US and UK companies that could ditch the USA and UK and enjoy lower taxation and sell their goods all over the world. Phillip Morrison is one...
  15. Agent23

    On the net, do you believe that Communism was a good deal or a bad deal for Eastern Europe, excluding the former Soviet space?

    Got a concrete example of that working? Elites are far more likely to do that if they become part of an entrenched, degenerate multi-generational oligarchy. I would rather have darwinistic elites who want their brats to succeed the way they did, by their own bootstraps in an environment of...
  16. Agent23

    On the net, do you believe that Communism was a good deal or a bad deal for Eastern Europe, excluding the former Soviet space?

    Yeah, well entrenched oligrachies that fucked stuff up usually got yeeted, see Fall of Rome, French Revolution, Russian revolution. Creative destruction in action. The other side of the knife is that you'd only make it possible for the really big fish to buy in. No one is stopping them from...
  17. Agent23

    On the net, do you believe that Communism was a good deal or a bad deal for Eastern Europe, excluding the former Soviet space?

    Ahem, Deluge and Polish partition, anyone? That stuff IMHO happened in great part because your hereditary voting oligarchy could not look beyond their narrow personal interests. There was on every interesting historic document where some ambassador to Poland was visiting some noble and couldn't...
  18. Agent23

    On the net, do you believe that Communism was a good deal or a bad deal for Eastern Europe, excluding the former Soviet space?

    And the situation was better under the Polish magnate oligarchy and your various regimes after the Russian Empire fell apart? Yup, you also have quite a few poor peasants that got factory jobs and saw some benefit of the whole deal.Be it getting some "free" land or their loans to the Kulak...
  19. Agent23

    On the net, do you believe that Communism was a good deal or a bad deal for Eastern Europe, excluding the former Soviet space?

    Not a real counter-argument.As I said, things were better under the Tzar.The last one wasn't all that competent mind you, but still better than the commie regimes. And many of those that were against that got sent into Gulags or were forced to emigrate. Larger than you'd think. Social...
  20. Agent23

    On the net, do you believe that Communism was a good deal or a bad deal for Eastern Europe, excluding the former Soviet space?

    I think that Communism undermined and brought down "Muskov" as much as it did everything else. For your average Russian, things were actually going better under the Tzar, with the economy growing double digits prior to WWI. Under the commies, bot the total land mass of Russia, its population and...
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