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No, I am dismissing their one-shot treknobabel bullshit because it is not repeated performance, which means that it is just a silly op plot device the incompetent writers added for the problem of the month, then had to get rid of because it is OP. Consistent performance is the key, not a...

And Andromeda has consistantly shown much better military performance and technological superiority, from FTL speed to weapons, like the ability to throw around black holes and blow up stars. The oneshot treknobable gimmicks of Trek have nothing on it.

You can view it however you want, for me Andromeda is a small glimpse of what Trek was supposed to be. Ergo, I view Andromeda's tech level as superior to that of Trek. It has faster FTL, more numerous and more powerful ships and can blow up stars for teh lulz and throw around black holes as...

Ah, yes, screwing Trek worse than Roddenberry ever could. Andromeda is the bigger, badder version of original Trek. It was the original idea for a sequel to TOS, not TNG and the stuff that came in later. So whatever trchnobabel Trek writers might pull off, well, Andromeda will always be...

We are discussing their overall capabilities, which are far more impressive for Andromeda than for Trek. Pfft, not really, it is more like Voyager is a huge hunk of heavy junk. Or that number was taken when mass reduction was in effect. The Coalition of Parts ship was orders of magnitude...

I have heard the multi-kilometer size quote in several episodes, but do feel free to dig it up yourself. The mass just means they have extremely advanced nano materials and armor that are very lightweight. Yeah, sure, tell that to the huge-ass and super-maneuverable ship that the Consensus of...

Maybe because if it had been too direct the Avatars would have pounced on it. It is humor. In any case, Andromeda's consistent performance is better than Trek's consistent performance, in that it doesn't constantly pull out oneoffs out of its ass.

The worldship is a bunch of Dyson rings around a small star. And even then, I doubt it can kill the Abyss. Also, those weapons were never used in any consistent manner, they are yet another piece of Treknobabel oneshot. Stop insulting Best Ship!

Or, the Trek show runners can't into actual details and throw out random crap. Andromeda's actual size; Length: 4300m Beam: 1000m Draft: 950m

It is orders of magnitude better, the Andromeda is a kilometers-long ship that can move at significant fractions of c.

Literally there on the wiki:

Yeah, sure oneshot Treknobabel. Not buying it. Andromeda tech does more or less the same mass manipulation that Trek does according to you. Only better. I will repeat, the Andromada verse and its tech are what Trek wants to be when it grows up. Actually, it was what Roddenberry wanted Trek...

Dude, Trek Warp and impulse tech work by manipulating subspace via trchnobabel, not gravity manipulation. Do you have actual examples of Trek stopping singularity based weapons? The Romulus had miniature singularities powering some of their ships, but no one ever used them as a weapon.

It has huge swarms of Magog battleships and weapons thet literally shoot black holes aroundalso I think "conventional" Andromeda missiles which can go to IIRC speeds exceeding 90% lightspeed. The andromedavdrse can do with gravitics stuff the Feds and the Borg can only dream of. Speed-wise if...

Except that Magog are iirc resistant to Nanotech, since otherwise that would have been used to remove their larva.

The Magog "God" is what drives the Worldship, it is like the 2 are linked. But if you strip out the god tier stuff then the Worldship and the rapidly reproducing Magog can easily overrun the Trek MW.

The Q did not interfere in Kirk or Archer's time, though. Sorry, but the Q whanck and 'It is all gonna be OK cause Q' doesn't really fly with me. We saw how well Q did in parallel universes, such as the ones where the Borg overran everything.

Sorry, while logical, your argument is meta, in universe rationale only, please. And we haven't heard of them since... I don't buy that the Q will care enough, for all we know, many of them might start rooting for the magog and the Abyss, since the abyss is closer to the Q evolutionarily than...

You mean like Trance Gemini? First off, the Q didn't care enough to help the feds against the Dominion or the galaxy at large against the Borg. I really don't understand why everyone thinks that for whatever reason those fickle asshats will give a damn if the Trek MW gets overrun.

Um, the Magog worldship took like a huge number of Nova bombs to the heart and the star at the center did not blow up, it just had to repair itself. And the Abyss probably won't die even if you damage it's ship. The Commonwealth is technologically what the federation wants to be when it grows...