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  1. Abhorsen

    United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School

    Forgot this! Yeah, if they hadn't shown up, more kids would have been alive. I wish they had dicked around and done nothing.
  2. Abhorsen

    United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School

    No, they weren't just the school cops who fucked up here. The police department also arrived and dicked about doing nothing.
  3. Abhorsen

    United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School

    They aren't saying whether it will be paid leave or not, which means it probably is. Guy stops people from saving their kids, does nothing, and gets a vacation out of it. In related news:
  4. Abhorsen

    United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School

    Ah. Welp, still applies to every American here. Anyway, I don't expect much to change en masse. Only individuals to change. Also, note that the right police bootlickers are already hard at work apologizing for the cops, like officer Tatum, etc. No, this should serve as a litmus test for news...
  5. Abhorsen

    United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School

    It will lead to nothing, unless you (yes, you!) start complaining and mobilizing because of this. This won't likely cause mass change, and the Uvalde shooting will be written off as bad apples instead of symptomatic of a large problem that needs solving. What it can do is awaken individuals to...
  6. Abhorsen

    United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School

    It did get worse. It was called the BLM movement. Look where it started, and where it ended up.
  7. Abhorsen

    United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School

    It's not the negligence that deserves death. Sadly, they didn't sign a document or swear a binding oath that they would protect people on pain of death. So I can't see a moral way to punish them for this, because the police oaths are so weak (which is it's own problem, that should be a thing)...
  8. Abhorsen

    United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School

    They won't be though. I'll bet you any amount of money they keep their jobs unless an election overthrows the Uvalde county everything. Shock who, the public or the cops? The public is shown their horrors, and is sometimes called to action, but the left race baits them into making it racial in...
  9. Abhorsen

    United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School

    No, each and every cop who obeyed orders to keep out parents would be convicted for aiding and abetting in a perfectly just world. In a functioning world, they would have been fired already. Just like every cop for at least 50 or so years. Other than the number of dead children, what's...
  10. Abhorsen

    United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School

    They know exactly what will happen to them: nothing. They can't be sued because of qualified immunity. If they got a union contract (likely), they likely can't even be fired. They likely can't even be suspended without pay. They are right now probably prevented from even releasing the names of...
  11. Abhorsen

    United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School

    Never underestimate government incompetence. This isn't new, it's just the first time you are hearing about it. For example, there was a crazed person stabbing people in subways in NYC. Cops were put (hidden) in the subway's control cabin specifically to find and arrest him. He shows up in the...
  12. Abhorsen

    United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School

    And this is why I was hopeful at the beginning of BLM. I thought it might result in some actual police reform. Because make no mistake, the race grifters know which button to push, because it's a real button. But little reform has happened. Rand Paul's Not a full solution, sadly. The elected...
  13. Abhorsen

    United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School

    Nothing will happen. Cops have done this in other cases too. And nothing happened. They aren't liable. They did nothing criminal. There's a very good chance they can't be fired because of a union contract. Even if they are fired, they might get hired a town over, or move and get hired there...
  14. Abhorsen

    United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School

    No. Your relentless trust of all authority needs to stop. A badge doesn't make someone right. Protocols doesn't make someone right. On the balance of evidence, no cops were in the building. That's why the reports are unconfirmed: they aren't true. In fact, it was an off duty CBP agent who went...
  15. Abhorsen

    United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School

    No, they don't. There's nothing holy or sacred about training. If the training was wrong, it was up to them as adults to realize that and not do it. It's just dodging responsibility. Yes, it would be worth it. The parents dying would have been the parents' choices. Putting yourself at risk to...
  16. Abhorsen

    United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School

    I'm always dubious of Carlson on a variety of things, as IMO he's a closet commie, but this isn't the type of thing I'd be suspicious of. In regards to this: I'll wait and see. I think in the meantime, I'll tentatively and temporarily retract my statements about those cops being evil cowards...
  17. Abhorsen

    United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School

    It's because people are conditioned (wrongly IMO) to believe cops are the good guys. Each one of those cops was the enemy at that point though. Imagine if they didn't have badges and they were civilians. We'd probably call them evil. Those badges don't make them not evil. Stopping someone from...
  18. Abhorsen

    United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School

    No lawsuit the cops were legally (and only legally) in the right. Which is why the worship of cops is a problem. They aren't sacred or heroes because of the uniform. People who risk their lives are heroes. Some cops risk their lives and protect people, and they are heroes for doing that, not for...
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