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  1. Abhorsen

    United States Unidentified Federal Agents conducting unmarked vehicle snatches of protestors in Portland

    I voted Vermin Supreme. I was very sad he lost. I'm stuck voting Jo now. She's not great, but a hell of a lot better than either of the other options. Also, it's more likely my vote will matter voting for her. If we hit certain thresholds, the LP gets ballot access, and potentially campaign...
  2. Abhorsen

    United States Unidentified Federal Agents conducting unmarked vehicle snatches of protestors in Portland

    Can we stop the derail please? Meanwhile, back on topic, does anyone know if this is continuing?
  3. Abhorsen

    United States Unidentified Federal Agents conducting unmarked vehicle snatches of protestors in Portland

    Oh, not at all. I don't have an issue with them moving in unmarked cars. The putting arrested people into unmarked cars, when you don't have much identifying information on, that's my issue. A number of things would have made me okay with what happened. First, I'd need it not to be CBP doing...
  4. Abhorsen

    United States Unidentified Federal Agents conducting unmarked vehicle snatches of protestors in Portland

    That's a crap argument. Arresting a group because some are guilty is classic police state bullshit, known as collective guilt. I despise this. Bad behavior on one side does not allow for bad behavior on the other side. I ultimately don't care if a few get away if it means that police are acting...
  5. Abhorsen

    United States Unidentified Federal Agents conducting unmarked vehicle snatches of protestors in Portland

    Because the police operates according to laws, and doing this is just the type of police state bs I hate. Meanwhile, that CBP is arresting anyone is just wrong entirely, and blatantly against the law. They are limited to only arrest people violating the law in front of them, and people who are...
  6. Abhorsen

    United States Unidentified Federal Agents conducting unmarked vehicle snatches of protestors in Portland

    Start by labeling the police vans as police vans. Just marking the vans would make this much less suspicious. This is a battle of perception. No, this looks really bad, and perceptions are what matters. Also, what the hell is CBP doing here? Unless they are illegal immigrants, I don't get what...
  7. Abhorsen

    United States Unidentified Federal Agents conducting unmarked vehicle snatches of protestors in Portland

    People do understand that being arrested like this is basically Antifa's wet dream, right? This does nothing at all to solve the problem and makes it worse. They are effectively cheap martyrs. The way to win this is to resort to as little force as possible, and constantly be in the moral...
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