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  1. Abhorsen

    Split off of discussion about Moldburg

    Segregation, especially forced segregation (given that I was talking about Jim Crow, this is what I was talking about) is clearly racist. And racism does have an actual meaning, not just the magical word liberals use it as. It means that there was an antagonism against black people based solely...
  2. Abhorsen

    Split off of discussion about Moldburg

    Integration is a good thing. The lack of integration was a great evil. I totally agree about the welfare state being horrible, and did damage for decades. But by 2013, New York is much safer than it was in the bad times he talks about (30 years post welfare state is around the 90s to 2000s, if...
  3. Abhorsen

    Split off of discussion about Moldburg

    This is a new thread? Also, murder rates aren't really that different (see graph). The denial of rights in the 50's? Definitely real. The lack of freedom? Also real. The actual discrimination of the 50's versus the imagined discrimination of today? I'll take today any day of the week. Then on...
  4. Abhorsen

    Split off of discussion about Moldburg

    Your honestly arguing you'd rather be black in the south in 1953 than black in the south in 2013? Really? in 1953, when Jim Crow was alive and well? When lynchings still happened? With extrajudicial police beatings of actually peaceful protestors? This may be your craziest take yet. You don't...
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