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  1. Aaron Fox

    United States Chemical Safety Board (USCSB) Thread
    Threadmarks: Inferno: Dust Explosion at Imperial Sugar and Iron in the Fire

    The industries will not regulate themselves. Explosive/combustible dust is a hazard that many corporate types will ignore because the equipment, training, and safety mentality cut into the bottom line. Most US sugar mills are of the older design that caused the accident in question. However...
  2. Aaron Fox

    United States Chemical Safety Board (USCSB) Thread

    Problem is, doing that is how they worm their way to get rid of necessary regulations. Companies have always taken the 'give an inch, they get a mile' to its logical, profit-minded conclusion. Basically, these groups tend to be the guys that prove the Chinese Legalists right. Period.
  3. Aaron Fox

    United States Chemical Safety Board (USCSB) Thread
    Threadmarks: Incompatible Chemicals: Explosion at AB Specialty Silicones

    It should be noted that, if given the choice, many companies would rather go back to that sort of SOP or go full Cyberpunk instead of going the morally uplifting route. While there are 'good faith' business elements that work, the problem is that it doesn't pay well in the view of the...
  4. Aaron Fox

    United States Chemical Safety Board (USCSB) Thread

    It was telling that when Theodore Roosevelt investigated the food industry (he assumed the book was exaggerating, but the reality was that it was the tip of the iceberg), his brain went through a full-on blue-screen moment. There was literally no lie detected (and that is after the meat...
  5. Aaron Fox

    United States Chemical Safety Board (USCSB) Thread

    They'll consider it 'just the price of business'. Quite literally. The thing is that we always need government. Always. Just like we need a lot of regulations and rules. No, it doesn't, if anything it suffers from lack of reach.
  6. Aaron Fox

    United States Chemical Safety Board (USCSB) Thread

    Morphic, are you still pulling that anti-regulation spiel? That's just sad, man, especially when history says otherwise.
  7. Aaron Fox

    United States Chemical Safety Board (USCSB) Thread

    Here's the thing, if governments tried to do that, you'll get major pushback from businesses. Walmart gets away with a lot of shit because all it has to say to a politician is 'nice unemployment figures you've got there, it would be a crying shame if something happened to them'. This is why, at...
  8. Aaron Fox

    United States Chemical Safety Board (USCSB) Thread
    Threadmarks: Ignored Warnings: Explosion in St. Louis

    Basically, a company hid their high-pressure water vessel (basically an oversized water heater) from the city and, due to improper repairs and lack of safety management, caused the deaths of not only a worker at the factory but also civilians. Oh, and I wouldn't be surprised that any attempts...
  9. Aaron Fox

    United States Chemical Safety Board (USCSB) Thread

    First, the fire is a mostly propane fire with a tiny bit of HF (the moment that the leak was detected, the board engineer immediately put the HF into a reinforced storage tank as per procedure, vastly limiting the amount of HF in the fire), and second, the water system was supposed to keep the...
  10. Aaron Fox

    United States Chemical Safety Board (USCSB) Thread
    Threadmarks: Wakeup Call: Philadelphia Energy Solutions Refinery Explosion

    So, yeah, an 'indestructible' elbow pipe ruptured, the crew quickly took all steps to limit the damage (including a supervisor activating the fire suppression system manually because the explosion knocked out the automatics), and hydrofluoric acid was largely contained.
  11. Aaron Fox

    United States Chemical Safety Board (USCSB) Thread

    The latest investigation with a video is yet another 'hot work' incident where employees without guidelines tried to troubleshoot a problem and caused a major fire... ... seriously, this is just... wow. This is why I'm all for regulating the shit out of pretty much everything because people...
  12. Aaron Fox

    United States Chemical Safety Board (USCSB) Thread

    I bet he would have only unflattering words to say at the sheer stupidity and greed the corpo-bigwigs would do outside of a few exceptions... but that's a sucker's bet.
  13. Aaron Fox

    United States Chemical Safety Board (USCSB) Thread

    I mean it's rare to hear the USCSB go 'the company did everything they could with the knowledge they had to prevent the disaster but the disaster still happened' like the 'Caught in the Storm' video. Most of the time it's corpos being socio/psychopathic beings that don't give a fuck about their...
  14. Aaron Fox

    United States Chemical Safety Board (USCSB) Thread
    Threadmarks: OP and link

    The USCSB has its own youtube channel, where it has several videos on various incidents in the various industries in the US. You wouldn't believe how many times it's the company or the lack of regulations that are at fault...
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