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Terthna

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Man, when the pendulum swings back, I would hate to be a LGBT-activist.
I doubt the blowback is going to be restrained to just targeting the LGBT community; there's going to be a lot of collateral damage. Ironically, much of it is probably going to spill over to people who are already experiencing abuse from the regressive left.
 

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I doubt the blowback is going to be restrained to just targeting the LGBT community; there's going to be a lot of collateral damage. Ironically, much of it is probably going to spill over to people who are already experiencing abuse from the regressive left.
We are already seeing the blowback in Eastern Europe:

Poland has LGBT-Ideology free zones, but those seem like a weak cover for people who actually hate LGBT, allowing them to get mainstream attention and credibility from people who (somewhat rightly) fear LGBT activism.
 
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PsihoKekec

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Not really a piece of news but an essay

Big Pimping

We were just digging into pizza and our third bottle of Chianti when a stylish, glossy-haired mother of two started talking about her daughter, who was three. In a voice filled with breathless anticipation, she described her plans for when her baby would enter the sexual marketplace. “I just want her to know she can tell me anything. As soon as she gets her period, I’m totally taking her to get on the pill. I just want us to be close.”


She turned to me. “Have you thought about when you’ll put your daughter on the pill?” My daughter was one at the time.


There aren’t a lot of street pimps in the suburbs of America. We don’t need them: we have affluent white female liberals, or “AWFLs,” as the Internet calls them. The expression “to turn out” comes from prison and street hooker culture. Pimps “turn out” girls; turn them into prostitutes and offer them up to customers. Getting “turned out” is what these bad boyfriends do to impressionable young girls.

Can't say this is really a new development though, child beauty pageants have a long history, but I guess participation on those pimping carnivals was not as widespread.
 
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PsihoKekec

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I don't know where else to put it, it's more of WTF than rage inducing, but it seems Chinese ownership of Grindr was considered to be such a security to USA government, that they pressured the owner to sell it to American company.
Bowing to US pressure, Chinese owner sells gay dating app Grindr

Beijing Kunlun Tech has agreed to sell gay dating app Grindr to comply with orders from the U.S. government, which deems Chinese ownership of the Los Angeles-based company a national security risk.

Kunlun's board has approved the sale of Grindr for $608 million to an American investment holding firm, the company said in a Friday regulatory filing. The Shenzhen-listed company had poured $245 million into acquiring the Los Angeles-based company, for which it had plans for an initial public offering.
 

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"The only thing Canada deserves is a nuclear holocaust"

Unironically makes me think of the Pol meme
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The backlash against this is going to be heinous; and when it comes, and people smell blood in the water it will be pushed, and pushed and pushed and they will find people responsible (even if they aren't). People don't seem to get it. It cannot go on forever like this, and when the bubble pops the boom from that is going to make people suffer.
 

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Unironically makes me think of the Pol meme
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The backlash against this is going to be heinous; and when it comes, and people smell blood in the water it will be pushed, and pushed and pushed and they will find people responsible (even if they aren't). People don't seem to get it. It cannot go on forever like this, and when the bubble pops the boom from that is going to make people suffer.
And this backlash scares the shit out of me. Backlashes don't care about nuance, they will hit all LGBT folk. Worse, it will probably hit non-SJW LGBT folks worse, as they don't live in a bubble. And people wonder why some gays are pro-gun: because we are rightfully afraid of what might happen.
 

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Unironically makes me think of the Pol meme

The backlash against this is going to be heinous; and when it comes, and people smell blood in the water it will be pushed, and pushed and pushed and they will find people responsible (even if they aren't). People don't seem to get it. It cannot go on forever like this, and when the bubble pops the boom from that is going to make people suffer.

The term is 'preference cascade.' A certain threshold is reached, and fear/desire to be part of the 'in-group' stops being enough to keep people from either saying what they really think, or recognizing is really true.

Then the social pressure/in-group pressure starts going the other way, and all the pent up frustration starts to vent very quickly. A lot of people who had visibly been part of the old 'in-group' decide they need to very visibly prove they are part of the new in group, and that adds to the force of the snap-back.

This is how you set up the conditions that result in mobs attacking adult 'trans' people, and known 'trans-advocates.'

It'll be interesting, seeing if online interaction methods can have a positive effect, as they might let some of that frustration be vented in a place other than street-mobs. Probably not enough of a positive effect to counter-balance how much they've served as echo-chambers/rabble-rousing spaces.

And those of us who've been trying to argue for sanity will then start finding ourselves arguing with the sudden glut of over-zealous anti-intersectionalists about how no, you don't need to destroy all these people's lives, just prove they're wrong. And prosecute those who actively helped mutilate children.
 

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The term is 'preference cascade.' A certain threshold is reached, and fear/desire to be part of the 'in-group' stops being enough to keep people from either saying what they really think, or recognizing is really true.

Then the social pressure/in-group pressure starts going the other way, and all the pent up frustration starts to vent very quickly. A lot of people who had visibly been part of the old 'in-group' decide they need to very visibly prove they are part of the new in group, and that adds to the force of the snap-back.

This is how you set up the conditions that result in mobs attacking adult 'trans' people, and known 'trans-advocates.'

It'll be interesting, seeing if online interaction methods can have a positive effect, as they might let some of that frustration be vented in a place other than street-mobs. Probably not enough of a positive effect to counter-balance how much they've served as echo-chambers/rabble-rousing spaces.

And those of us who've been trying to argue for sanity will then start finding ourselves arguing with the sudden glut of over-zealous anti-intersectionalists about how no, you don't need to destroy all these people's lives, just prove they're wrong. And prosecute those who actively helped mutilate children.
This. All of this. A lot of normal LGBT people are desperately pointing out the craziness in hopes that the radicals could return to sanity and not smear us all by association, but it has had only moderate success. I think the LGB's will survive, but the backlash will be entirely focused on the T's, most of whom just want to fit in. You can see this with some anti-SJW commentators basically using Trans as a synonym for SJW. And that's jsut not true. Fortunately, Blaire White, Rose of Dawn, and others are pointing out that there are Trans people who aren't crazy. I just hope it's enough.
 

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This. All of this. A lot of normal LGBT people are desperately pointing out the craziness in hopes that the radicals could return to sanity and not smear us all by association, but it has had only moderate success. I think the LGB's will survive, but the backlash will be entirely focused on the T's, most of whom just want to fit in. You can see this with some anti-SJW commentators basically using Trans as a synonym for SJW. And that's jsut not true. Fortunately, Blaire White, Rose of Dawn, and others are pointing out that there are Trans people who aren't crazy. I just hope it's enough.

I honestly think gays and bisexuals will survive the backlash in the best shape.

Why? quite simply put the activists are openly turning on gay men, with several of the loonie toons people writing actual articals, denoucing them. Add to the fact that you have a bunch of gay men who openly served in the milatary and several gay conservatives like Milo who have been deplatformed well that means that gay men as a block can safely say fuck those guys when the time comes.

Bi sexuals have the advantage of being able to ghost and having that bullshit.

As for lesbians they will have a harder time but will make it. Trans people will have the worst time and my money? Its going to be the 'former' SJW activists who treat them the worst and commit the most hate crimes against them.
 

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Bi sexuals have the advantage of being able to ghost and having that bullshit.
Shh! Don't tell them my plan!
I honestly think gays and bisexuals will survive the backlash in the best shape.

Why? quite simply put the activists are openly turning on gay men, with several of the loonie toons people writing actual articals, denoucing them. Add to the fact that you have a bunch of gay men who openly served in the milatary and several gay conservatives like Milo who have been deplatformed well that means that gay men as a block can safely say fuck those guys when the time comes.

Bi sexuals have the advantage of being able to ghost and having that bullshit.

As for lesbians they will have a harder time but will make it. Trans people will have the worst time and my money? Its going to be the 'former' SJW activists who treat them the worst and commit the most hate crimes against them.
I don't think this will protect much from the backlash. The whole LGBT movement will be smeared by the activists, and the backlash won't have nuance.
 
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Terthna

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And this backlash scares the shit out of me. Backlashes don't care about nuance, they will hit all LGBT folk. Worse, it will probably hit non-SJW LGBT folks worse, as they don't live in a bubble. And people wonder why some gays are pro-gun: because we are rightfully afraid of what might happen.
As I said before, I don't think it'll be limited to LGBT, though they'll probably get the worst of it by far; anything that's had a significant regressive left presence is going to be impacted by the backlash against them. Even people with autism like me will be affected; in fact, we already are, as our disability is often used as an insult directed towards the regressive left. Don't even get me started on how the entertainment media you consume are going to be affected by this.



Its going to be the 'former' SJW activists who treat them the worst and commit the most hate crimes against them.
Of course; because those activists are merely taking advantage of the current zeitgeist to best indulge in their hatred for their fellow man, and stroke their ego. These are the exact same sorts of people that used to embrace blaming the Jews for all the world's problems, up until that was made decidedly unpopular after Hitler showed everyone the logical extreme one could take that idea to.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Honestly, I gotta say, this will be used in the future to justify another push in SJWism

Why can’t people actually learn to really moderate things

I pointed out before, that part of the reason LGBT can even be tolerated, is by being as much as possible ordinary & decent people outside of being LGBT

They don’t have to make being LGBT a huge part of their personalities, but nope, it gets them attention and likes

Hell, doubt many are interested in the same sex or have dysphoria to begin with and are just in it due to political trends

Say, as a bisexual, how do you interact with the SJW-Activists and insane douchebags who use being LGBT as a shield to bash people and hide behind?
 

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As I said before, I don't think it'll be limited to LGBT, though they'll probably get the worst of it by far; anything that's had a significant regressive left presence is going to be impacted by the backlash against them. Even people with autism like me will be affected; in fact, we already are, as our disability is often used as an insult directed towards the regressive left. Don't even get me started on how the entertainment media you consume are going to be affected by this.
Totally agree with this. Everyone who is perceived as being aided by wokeness will get the backlash when the dam finally breaks.
Of course; because those activists are merely taking advantage of the current zeitgeist to best indulge in their hatred for their fellow man, and stroke their ego. These are the exact same sorts of people that used to embrace blaming the Jews for all the world's problems, up until that was made decidedly unpopular after Hitler showed everyone the logical extreme one could take that idea to.
Hilariously, many of the LGBT activists aren't even LGBT. They 'advocate' for us by shutting up intellectually diverse voices and getting internet points.
Say, as a bisexual, how do you interact with the SJW-Activists and insane douchebags who use being LGBT as a shield to bash people and hide behind?
Honestly, as much as I vent online, in person it is important to show compassion and reveal another side to them.

The important thing is to convince people that there is at least one way that they don't go completely intersectional on. Then once they are convinced on that, that gap frequently leads the rest to crumble as well. This is because Intersectionality is a religion followed by 20-somethings, and is mostly followed because when in college, people just default to thinking it is good.

The way I do this is by adopting their framework of the world, and use it to open them to new ideas. I remember that I was at college and there was a round table on gun control and gun violence. Me and a friend (both pro gun) attended, and we totally changed the narrative, and made real headway with people that would have disagreed with us. He used being from Chicago and police violence to point out that you need guns to protect yourself because the police aren't going to help you. Meanwhile, I chimed in with my story about how I was afraid about being attacked for who I loved, and said that "I'm getting my concealed carry license as soon as possible, because I'm not gonna be a statistic." The people I was talking to already bought our premise, both emotionally and intellectually. So we used these premises to come to a different, pro-gun, conclusion. I know this worked, because one of the very activist people came up and said that she heard my story, and understood where I came from.

For a recent, public example, look at how Arielle Scarcella (a very liberal, lesbian OG youtuber) finally red-pilled: She saw what the LGBT activists were doing as misogynistic. This is a leftist critique of SJW, and those are very powerful in convincing people.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Nice, say ever read Aristillus by Travis J Corcoran?

The titular city on the moon is a place with pretty much no government and has an international and multiethnic population due to the fact that simply put, the highly centralised and almost outright communist nations, hurt pretty much everybody

Even non-whites like the Nigerians who after hearing about the Peakers(UN Peacekeepers)possibly coming, volunteer to get trained and equipped for the future “liberation”

Because simply put, lots of them had VERY bad memories and experiences in relation to those governments

The college students from Earth who are busy slandering the city know and applaud the fact that the place will “become sane” only for surrounding people, lots of em “minorities” to recognize em and get PISSED.

There was a 100% chance of lots of them losing their guns and later their businesses or suddenly losing their land and property for things that were supposed to “help them”

I think maybe showing someone this series WITHOUT seeing these “reviews” would help

I'm sure this can be justified as your lovely American free speech and not hate speech or malicious communication, and yes, I'm sure Corcoran has a perfect right to say it and all that shit. Guess what? I have a perfect right not to like it, and a right to not be associated with the nutter who spews it.
-- Warren Ellis, author of Transmetropolitan, Iron Man Extremis, The Authority

Stupid, ill-advised, and, frankly, immoral
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How is Travis Corcoran still a free man?
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In realising that the book is NOT a horrinle hatespeech whatever



Just sorta relating, I think it helps to open minds when you come in without the strong opinions of others(I think Mark Millar actually liked it)
 

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Leftard who wrote his gunless open border "utopia" as being ruled by a bunch of superpowered tyrants.


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Typical commie reaction. Wrong opinions and ideas, so the author must be criminal and/or insane.

Since these leftards are triggered by the book, it must be good enough.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Leftard who wrote his gunless open border "utopia" as being ruled by a bunch of superpowered tyrants.

Wait, was Kamala Khan the president of the USA? And Maria Hill looking like a dude and shaved her hair in the sort of bald but there is tiny hair

Or are you talking about The Authority wherein they went from superheroes actually willing to kill and also used their powers and technology to help the economy, to taking over the USA and making it so that farmers can make and sell weed

Typical commie reaction. Wrong opinions and ideas, so the author must be criminal and/or insane.

Since these leftards are triggered by the book, it must be good enough.

I honestly LOVE that Travis J Corcoran actually posted these reviews alongside the more approving ones and its(the reviews are)even on amazon

Anyway, sorta getting off topic, that said this was pretty funny to think about
 
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