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Or...he is actually going through with cleaning up his country.
The people Bidens family is in bed with?
Wanted by Ukraine...

Not really. Won't comment on the Biden issue, but there's corruption scandal after corruption scandal, Zelensky did nothing of substance to address the issue, other then asking local media not to cover corruption "because of the war effort".
 
Not really. Won't comment on the Biden issue, but there's corruption scandal after corruption scandal, Zelensky did nothing of substance to address the issue, other then asking local media not to cover corruption "because of the war effort".
He has been fighting it while fighting the war.
He fired his defense minister iirc because of corruption.
 
... It objectively did. Literally everyone says this, it's fairly common knowledge. Neocons like Ben Shapiro even say it.
I'm not one to take neocons at their word, even if i agree with them on some things, even less so when their words are relayed by proxy who openly dislikes them.
yeah, Ukrainians exist solely to die for the interests of American Empire.
I think Ukrainians would be more than fine with hearing that "they die for the interests of American Empire" if that's what's going to get them military supplies they need to avoid being Russia's satrapy again. That's the definition of a happy coincidence of interests. If you think no one would take that deal, i would recommend spending some time reading about the experience of living in such places, or going to experience that life yourself if you struggle to believe the written materials. Ukrainians have experienced that for decades even after communism fell, for whole Soviet era and centuries of Russian Empire too, so i'm going to imply that they are making a well educated choice by fighting a brutal war to avoid being back there.
 
He has been fighting it while fighting the war.
He fired his defense minister iirc because of corruption.

In this area, people are fired for corruption in 3 cases:
- the "stench" became impossible to cover up,
- for the being incompetent enough and getting caught in the act
- for not sharing properly...

There's no shortage of coverage of the issue here in Poland if you look for it; people who actually fight the war are either patriots (and getting killed off in the process which is very convenient for the oligarch mafia, since they won't be a problem later if they're dead) or those too poor to bribe their way out / flee the country. The wealthy and the truly rich have long since fled, there was a docu called "The Monaco Brigade" about their high life in Monaco as per title.

Zelensky did nothing of note other then some empty gestures now and then, since he's basically an oligarch stooge himself, his power is based on oligarch support, so he can't really move against his backers, only play them against each other at best.

(you can google translate the above, just one example)
 
In this area, people are fired for corruption in 3 cases:
- the "stench" became impossible to cover up,
- for the being incompetent enough and getting caught in the act
- for not sharing properly...

There's no shortage of coverage of the issue here in Poland if you look for it; people who actually fight the war are either patriots (and getting killed off in the process which is very convenient for the oligarch mafia, since they won't be a problem later if they're dead) or those too poor to bribe their way out / flee the country. The wealthy and the truly rich have long since fled, there was a docu called "The Monaco Brigade" about their high life in Monaco as per title.

Zelensky did nothing of note other then some empty gestures now and then, since he's basically an oligarch stooge himself, his power is based on oligarch support, so he can't really move against his backers, only play them against each other at best.

(you can google translate the above, just one example)
I mean, Zelesnky has overall been hands off with the leading if his forces and let Zalushy ir how ever you spell it lead him.

I thiugh will have to back out of this conversation due to reasons of knowledge and lack of what I am willing to say due to difficulty.
 
I mean, Zelesnky has overall been hands off with the leading if his forces and let Zalushy ir how ever you spell it lead him.

I thiugh will have to back out of this conversation due to reasons of knowledge and lack of what I am willing to say due to difficulty.

FYI, the way the Ukrainian counter-offensive was handled and what is was aimed at, plus many cases of defending otherwise strategically worthless locations for sake of politics, were Zelensky's doing of strongarming his generals.
 
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FYI, the way the Ukrainian counter-offensive was handled and what is was aimed at, plus many cases of defending otherwise strategically worthless locations for sake of politics, were Zelensky's doing of strongarming his generals.
Like what places exactly?
And the counter offensive that was the third one they telegraphed and still had gains made. Just a little more difficult
 
Like what places exactly?

I'd have to check sources, but a lot of "heroically fighting for an insignificant spot without giving an inch" was done exclusively for political reasons while the generals wanted to retreat to preserve their forces. Subject was covered repeatedly by Polish mil-sphere analysts.

And the counter offensive that was the third one they telegraphed and still had gains made. Just a little more difficult

They also struck the most predictable sector...
 
yeah, Ukrainians exist solely to die for the interests of American Empire.

Look I'm one of those "Let them fight" people who think America should stay out of the conflict, but you really want to tell a Ukrainian, they have no right to exist, only do so because of the "Evil American Empire" and should "Embrace their true homeland of Russia"? I'd make sure to have a nurse on standby before doing so.
 
Look I'm one of those "Let them fight" people who think America should stay out of the conflict, but you really want to tell a Ukrainian, they have no right to exist, only do so because of the "Evil American Empire" and should "Embrace their true homeland of Russia"? I'd make sure to have a nurse on standby before doing so.

Im telling you Ukraine and Russia would have come to their own natural modus vivendi if not for a bunch of insane revanchists who wanted to turn Ukraine into American Manchukuo
 
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I'm not one to take neocons at their word, even if i agree with them on some things, even less so when their words are relayed by proxy who openly dislikes them.

I think Ukrainians would be more than fine with hearing that "they die for the interests of American Empire" if that's what's going to get them military supplies they need to avoid being Russia's satrapy again. That's the definition of a happy coincidence of interests. If you think no one would take that deal, i would recommend spending some time reading about the experience of living in such places, or going to experience that life yourself if you struggle to believe the written materials. Ukrainians have experienced that for decades even after communism fell, for whole Soviet era and centuries of Russian Empire too, so i'm going to imply that they are making a well educated choice by fighting a brutal war to avoid being back there.

Lets see..the price of being a Russian vassal: Autonomy for Donbass, No NATO influence and allowing linguistic rights for Russian speakers.

What has the cost been for being an American vassal? Territorial loss, economic devastation and an entire generation dead on the battlefield.

And they will end up either truncated rump state or a Russian vassal anyways.
 
Lets see..the price of being a Russian vassal: Autonomy for Donbass, No NATO influence and allowing linguistic rights for Russian speakers.
No. That's the propaganda offer. The real offer is: all of the above, all current conquests go to Russia, plus you do nothing while we exploit all of the above to eventually gain full informal, and in some years formal control of Ukraine.
I'm not even making educated guesses, here's a case study from a country following the path Ukraine is fighting to avoid:
If you govern your eastern european country the way Russia wants, at some point you will be expected to adopt Russian language over your own. Not instantly, and not quickly, but eventually, you will be.

This btw is why the smaller Baltic states are so incredibly vocal about support for Ukraine, due to their size they had such plans pushed harder during past times, and they know Russia would do so again given an opportunity.
And they will end up either truncated rump state or a Rus
What Ukrainian territory does USA claim? The devastation and dead are being done by Russia, not USA. USA is sending them weapons to defend themselves from the Russian soldiers causing that. sian vassal anyways.
What has the cost been for being an American vassal? Territorial loss, economic devastation and an entire generation dead on the battlefield.

That's just your defeatism, natural coming form a sympathizer of the other side.
 
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Im telling you Ukraine and Russia would have come to their own natural modus vivendi if not for a bunch of insane revanchists who wanted to turn Ukraine into American Manchukuo

yeah, you betray your inner thoughts in your very next response dude.

Lets see..the price of being a Russian vassal: Autonomy for Donbass, No NATO influence and allowing linguistic rights for Russian speakers.

What has the cost been for being an American vassal? Territorial loss, economic devastation and an entire generation dead on the battlefield.

And they will end up either truncated rump state or a Russian vassal anyways
 
They also struck the most predictable sector...
Well... yes?

Berlin was a pretty predictable attack sight in WW2 as well, was striking there a mistake? How about invading france, was that a strategic blunder because it was predictable?
 
So those of you against giving financial and military aid to Ukraine. I see your point and can sympathize. But what about medical aid and humanitarian assistance. I think such support is good don’t you, and isn’t that support at the end of the day?
 
Well... yes?

Berlin was a pretty predictable attack sight in WW2 as well, was striking there a mistake? How about invading france, was that a strategic blunder because it was predictable?

False equivalence, they struck a sector that was most predictable, thus also best prepared for defense in depth. And quickly found out the hard way this wasn't such a hot idea, running into minefields backed by killboxes.
 
I'm not one to take neocons at their word, even if i agree with them on some things, even less so when their words are relayed by proxy who openly dislikes them.
The idea that the only reason rapprochement happened between Israel and the Saudi block is because Iran became a threat is generally accepted knowledge by anyone who actually looks at the place. If you are going to deny this, your knowledge of the middle east's current affairs isn't worth debating with. The entire reason I cited a neocon was to point out that there's broad support for this idea.

This is Realpolitik 101 here, not graduate level stuff: The enemy of my enemy is my ally of convenience.
 
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So those of you against giving financial and military aid to Ukraine. I see your point and can sympathize. But what about medical aid and humanitarian assistance. I think such support is good don’t you, and isn’t that support at the end of the day?
This is the kind of thing charities and volunteer orgs are great at and already do a ton of. I'm not really in favor of the government being in this business, though I do agree with simple policies incentivizing it.
 

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