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Likely, at least close.
Stalin suppressed abortion for most of his rule and TFR in the USSR shot up:
East Germany also had higher fertility than West Germany, as did most of the Warsaw Pact vs NATO:
Likely, at least close.
Stalin suppressed abortion for most of his rule and TFR in the USSR shot up:
East Germany also had higher fertility than West Germany, as did most of the Warsaw Pact vs NATO:
Interesting.
Modern China's not the same as the USSR, but it may well have that kind of effect. On the other hand, it might not. Soviet women were expected to be workers and mothers. China didn't do that, for a while.
They're trying now, but this kind of thing doesn't turn on a dime. We'll just have to wait and see.
It's been awhile since I posted in here, so I thought I would do some demographics coverage since that's always a major topic of consideration nowadays.
1. White Voters, through fertility selection, are becoming more Right Wing:
2. This is especially true when you control for religion:
3. Black TFR is collapsing rapidly:
4. The above is true especially in the South:
As I quoted that one Twitter chain above, it's unlikely the CCP will achieve a total abortion ban in effect, but even a 50%-75% reduction (Still less than what Stalin achieved) would still take their TFR from 1.05 to about 1.5 to 1.7 or so. That would put it ahead of just about everyone else in the Great Powers.
Vietnam, another Communist country in a modern context, has also maintained its TFR at healthy levels too (1.9 TFR, as of last figures):
They will give thier own abortions that would kost likely do more harm then good.
Add in the fact the younger Chinese just don't want to have kids.
They will give thier own abortions that would kost likely do more harm then good.
Add in the fact the younger Chinese just don't want to have kids.
And the culture in USSR is completely diffrent then that of China.The Stalinist ban successfully reduced abortion by 90% in a context with less State surveillance capabilities.
So...they will force people not to get them...and so people decide to stop having sex all together and make things worse?As to whether or not Chinese don’t want to have kids, that doesn’t really matter when they’re having 9 million abortions a year and if this is curtailed via the security forces.
Not just feminism in China from what I can gather.And that doesn't come from thin air.
There are similar opinions, here in the West. The common factor, as far as I can tell? Feminism.
add in the horrible construction that is causing a lot of deaths, the pain of the 1 child policy, and the fact there are way more men then women due to said former 1 child policy.....
I said former 1 child policy.That's gone, now. Still, there'd be results.....
I said former 1 child policy.
With the aspect that they have nit had any major uptick in births to the number needed to stop thier aging population.
The entirety of the newest generation would have to be having 5 plus families to make up for the generation gap they have
And the culture in USSR is completely diffrent then that of China.
So...they will force people not to get them...and so people decide to stop having sex all together and make things worse?
Or they just have abortions in thier homes because as surveillance heavy as they are, the chinese still have no full control over the singke aspects of thier lives.
It is too late. Even with a abortion ban it wouldn't matter with how destroyed thier demographics arethe time to insitute such a policy was likely 30 years ago.
Its far too late now.
Yes it doesIndeed, China has more surveillance capacity than Stalin's USSR has and this enables the State more capability to shut down abortion than the NKVD had back in the day.
Yes because illegal abortions performed in houeholds woth coat hangers will have statistics in a country where breaking the law is worse then death...Except we didn't see abortion bans resulting in this anywhere else.
Russia is actually pretty well placed to survive:
China, if they can get abortion under control, could fix their demographic issues directly. They’re also mass adopting robotics in a way the West isn’t as a mitigation strategy:
1.Kgbsta,soviets killed Russia long ago.And they are replaced by muslims - white people are slowly replaced by brown ones there.
Not mention,that those white people are destroyed by vodka to the point where putin army do not want them.
Which mean,that they are not normal drunks,but human wrecks.
2.They still kill their doughters,even if they could have 2 children.One child policy killed them and their army - becouse army made by single sons would not risk their lives - they must survive to take care of their parents.
And commies do not pay anytching normal old people,only old commies.
1.No evidence of vodka destroing white postsoviets,too?There's no evidence of this:
Again, there's very little to support this:
A study has found that the number of sex-selective abortions in China has plummeted since 2010 due to the restrictions of the fertility policy gradually loosening, the slump of fertility desire, and the weakening of son preference (Wang Penggang et al., 2021).
1.No evidence of vodka destroing white postsoviets,too?
2.weakening son preference in China? are you joking? if they do not have sons,they would die from hunger as old people,becouse nobody would care about them.Certainly not commies.
You belive in kgbstan/China sources - good for you,but their sources are ALWAYS faked.
1.white postsoviets still do not have kids - and postsoviet army still refuse part of them becouse of vodka.Which mean,that they must be half-dead.The claim about Muslim birth rates. As for Post-Collapse Alcoholism, what exactly are the metrics we are judging on that? Alcohol related deaths have plummeted since the 1990s.
There is literally zero evidence for this.
1.white postsoviets still do not have kids - and postsoviet army still refuse part of them becouse of vodka.Which mean,that they must be half-dead.
2.No evidence that China commie state do not pay real moneys old people,who are not party bosses ?