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Skitzyfrenic said:
The insect thing always baffles me. Well, outside of 'we want you to eat bugs because we want to be that much better than you.'

Like there's so much blue agriculture we can do. There are a bunch of places that would actually benefit from oyster and mussel farms. I think there are huge vertical urban fish farms in China. Aquaponics is one of the best holistic, fast producing, small footprint multi-product systems possible.

You can vertical farm a number of smaller birds, like quails, and even chicken. They even thrive to a degree. A quick google search reveals large numbers of commercial chicken farms already raise chickens exclusively indoors.

We are so, so, so, so far from needing to farm insects for food.
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its about power. And humiliation.

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Bear Ribs said:
Yes, most insects are unable to process B Vitamins and contain only micro-amounts of them. A kilo of mealworms a day has about enough B-Vitamins to sustain... a rat. And they're probably not keen on you eating a full two pounds of the bugs either. Calcium is also notoriously low, and even the nutrition that supposedly is in the bugs is often not digestible to humans because it's packed in the chitin, which will go right through you without releasing that precious protein.


B-Vitamins in general tend to be the sticking point for most of these diets. Vegans tend notoriously towards B-Vitamin deficiency diseases because the only real sources of B-Vitamins are eggs, meat, yogurt, and a few other animal sources. There are plants that have some but you have to be a ruminant to eat enough of them to matter. Calcium has the same issue. Coincidentally B-Vitamins and Calcium are ridiculously heavily required for developing brains. They talk about calcium for bones but the reason our body uses calcium bones is to have a reserve for the brain, you body will strip calcium from the skeleton as needed to keep the brain going. This is also why lead causes brain damage, it happens to chemically be able to replace calcium in the specific receptors the brain uses for its calcium fix, and will thus block brain development if ingested at a young age.

The uptake of this is that feeding bugs to kids specifically is an almost tailor-made recipe for low intelligence in the next generation.
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Makes more sense now, doesn't it?
 
Zachowon said:
See, the DoD failing the audit to me is a I do not care.
Well i sorta do.
Wish more came to the individual.
But a lot of the money missing js most likely allocated toward black budget items
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Even a single dollar squandered by the government is a crime against it's people. They're there to govern, not to ROB.
And hell, if they want to rob and steal, they could at least be honest about it. A morally good thief beats a decrepit one.
 
Skitzyfrenic said:
The insect thing always baffles me. Well, outside of 'we want you to eat bugs because we want to be that much better than you.'

Like there's so much blue agriculture we can do. There are a bunch of places that would actually benefit from oyster and mussel farms. I think there are huge vertical urban fish farms in China. Aquaponics is one of the best holistic, fast producing, small footprint multi-product systems possible.

You can vertical farm a number of smaller birds, like quails, and even chicken. They even thrive to a degree. A quick google search reveals large numbers of commercial chicken farms already raise chickens exclusively indoors.

We are so, so, so, so far from needing to farm insects for food.
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You are giving them the benefit of the doubt.
But, they are not (just) stupid, they are malicious.

They do not give a shit about "muh carbon emissions".
They literally get a boner from the idea of humiliating their "lessers".
 
ThatZenoGuy said:
Even a single dollar squandered by the government is a crime against it's people. They're there to govern, not to ROB.
And hell, if they want to rob and steal, they could at least be honest about it. A morally good thief beats a decrepit one.
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If there is a small amount set aside for black budget projects that's good.
Because that means we have shit jo one else does.
Get rid of that you get rid of what makes us above everyone else
 
Zachowon said:
If there is a small amount set aside for black budget projects that's good.
Because that means we have shit jo one else does.
Get rid of that you get rid of what makes us above everyone else
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Who's serving who in that transaction? A nation is made up by it's people, you cannot just do shady shit on the side without telling anybody.
Guess what happens when you trade freedom for security? You get neither.
 
Zachowon said:
If there is a small amount set aside for black budget projects that's good.
Because that means we have shit jo one else does.
Get rid of that you get rid of what makes us above everyone else
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1. half your budget should not be black budget
2. you could just call it black ops budget instead of losing the money. as in "this money goes to an account from which CIA secretly takes and spends without telling anyone what they spend it on".
3. how do you know that all this missing money is going to black budget?
4. you realize that black budget is not going to undermine russia, it is going towards assassinating American conservatives and the like.
 
ThatZenoGuy said:
Even a single dollar squandered by the government is a crime against it's people. They're there to govern, not to ROB.
And hell, if they want to rob and steal, they could at least be honest about it. A morally good thief beats a decrepit one.
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Eh, not quite.
Even a single dollar taken by the government is a crime against it's people.
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The government 100% is there to rob from you. Taxes are theft. At best, the government can use that money to stop more evil than it did in the taking.
 
Abhorsen said:
Taxes are theft
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No, they're taxes. It isn't theft because the government is legally free to take as much of your money as the public allows it to.

And this is the same government that gives you property rights in the first place, without which you're prey to whatever thug can pull together a gang and rob your house at will. So don't even imagine that you can do without them.
 
SoliFortissimi said:
No, they're taxes. It isn't theft because the government is legally free to take as much of your money as the public allows it to.

And this is the same government that gives you property rights in the first place, without which you're prey to whatever thug can pull together a gang and rob your house at will. So don't even imagine that you can do without them.
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Property rights only matter if you can afford property.

...Which taxes sort-of are preventing, among many things.
 
SoliFortissimi said:
And this is the same government that gives you property rights in the first place, without which you're prey to whatever thug can pull together a gang and rob your house at will.
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I dunno...

Many big cities have rather... invasive... governments and that doesn't seem to stop gangs from robbing places blind in broad daylight in full view of everyone with no consequences.

They usually have rather high taxes as well.
 
SoliFortissimi said:
No, they're taxes. It isn't theft because the government is legally free to take as much of your money as the public allows it to.

And this is the same government that gives you property rights in the first place, without which you're prey to whatever thug can pull together a gang and rob your house at will. So don't even imagine that you can do without them.
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To share a comment from elsewhere:

The border could be secure and enforced, if they wanted them to

The cities could be safe and clean, if they wanted them to

The schools could be educational, if they wanted them to

but they already have your money, so why bother
 
SoliFortissimi said:
No, they're taxes. It isn't theft because the government is legally free to take as much of your money as the public allows it to.
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Which is theft. In the same way that the Germans murdered the Jews. Sure it was legal, but it was morally murder. Same for taxes, it may be legal, but it is morally theft.

If someone puts a gun to your head an says "your money or your life", that's theft. The government does the same with the threat of cops, imprisonment, and if you resist, death for you and maybe your family.
SoliFortissimi said:
And this is the same government that gives you property rights in the first place, without which you're prey to whatever thug can pull together a gang and rob your house at will. So don't even imagine that you can do without them.
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The government doesn't give you property rights. Property rights are inherent from you owning yourself. The government, at best, acknowledges property rights that are inherent and then defends them. And the government frequently doesn't defend people from gangs. In fact, in America, frequently the government would prefer to prosecute those who defend themselves from gangs.
 
Abhorsen said:
Which is theft
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Calling it theft doesn't make it theft, mate. Words don't change reality.

Abhorsen said:
The government doesn't give you property rights. Property rights are inherent from you owning yourself.
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That's just a leftist propaganda point. Rights are only derived from the will of the sovereign, which in a democracy means the people. In other words, if the people vote for taxes? Then you will pay taxes.

There's no such thing as a natural right.
 
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SoliFortissimi said:
Calling it theft doesn't make it theft, mate. Words don't change reality.


That's just a leftist propaganda point. Rights are only derived from the will of the sovereign, which in a democracy means the people. In other words, if the people vote for taxes? Then you will pay taxes.

There's no such thing as a natural right.
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Uhhh, who exactly voted for taxes though? The majority of them are brought in 'temporarily with emergency powers' only to be forgotten about.
 
SoliFortissimi said:
Calling it theft doesn't make it theft, mate. Words don't change reality.
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I literally gave a justification for why it's theft, the same as why the Germans murdered the Jews, then you just ignored it entirely. You don't seem to understand the legal/moral distinction. You don't have an argument at all, so you are just mindless repeating stuff that I've already exposed as BS. Do better.

SoliFortissimi said:
Calling it theft doesn't make it theft, mate. Words don't change reality.


That's just a leftist propaganda point. Rights are only derived from the will of the sovereign, which in a democracy means the people. In other words, if the people vote for taxes? Then you will pay taxes.

There's no such thing as a natural right.
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No, that's not leftist at all. In fact, the authoritarian leftist point is what you are proposing, that rights are given (and can thus be taken away) by government. That's classic commie thought.

The right? They frequently believe rights come from God. Libertarians think they come from self ownership. Left libs split between rights being inherent and being from government. It more or less splits the political compass diagonally from Auth Right corner to the Lib Left corner, with you being on the Commie side of that.
 
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