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The Whispering Monk

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Man From U.N.C.L.E. w/Henry Cavill and Armie Hammer

I like the way the spies play off each other in this one. Good ol' school spy flick that still kinda sticks with it's campy roots.
 

Husky_Khan

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I have finished Babylon 5.

I find it bizzare that Sheridan doesn't seem to have made more close friends during the 20 years after the show takes place. At the end he only summons a half dozen people from his stint on Babylon 5. Also feels conspicuous that all of them survived the 20 years. Even in TNG's future epilogue All Good Things you had at least one person who didn't make it (Troi).

This is really darkly ironic since so many of the Babylon 5 cast has passed Beyond the Rim since the end of the show. It's "only" been just over twenty years after all. With that said, I didn't really think about this but it's a good point. I'm really ambivalent to the dirty half dozen surviving as they did, it's kind of a minor issue for me but the rest of your statement is kind of on point. It's been a long time since I saw the show, especially the finale, but Sheridan did live a very full and interesting life with lots of people, it should've been more.

The show was overall good. It wasn't the masterpiece it's fandom hyped it up to be, but it was enjoyable. It did stand out to me that they kept phrasing stuff in Judeo-Christian terms. "The darkness and the light" and "we answer to a higher court" (what court?) or "faith prevails" (faith in what?) and so on, but it feels vapid since the show doesn't believe in any one true God or is grounded in Christianic morality. This isn't a problem specific to Babylon 5 specifically: lots of fantasy that riffs the aesthetic of LotR's grand epic struggle but leave behind the underlying beliefs suffer from this.

The show didn't overstay its welcome. I can only think of one episode that I skipped. Can't think of any particularly unenjoyable episodes. DS9 ran for 7 seasons and there are many episodes I just don't find enjoyable and skip whenever I rewatch that show.

I think one issue with the show is that you have to question who you are rooting for. In Star Trek, you are rooting for the Federation. When the Klingons or the Romulans or the Borg are threatening the Federation, you want the Federation to be protected. You want to see what happens next. In B5, the Earth Alliance is never likeable so it's hard to care about any threats to it. Every representative from there is an asshole. Almost every other race - Minbari, Centauri, and Narn - seem to be more likeable, but you don't really see what life is like on their homeworlds, only see one or two characters from them on the station. So once the show ends and you find out that there is a novel about the Psi Corp, you have to wonder "why care what happens to the Earth Alliance?" Or a hypothetical sequel series following David. "Why care what happens to this setting?".

I guess the only other thing to comment on is the production values and aesthetics. The big bulky Vorlon costume really spruced up the look of the aliens, but sadly after Kosh and his replacement were gone from the show, you're just left with a bunch of humans and humands with rubberheads. Not that I dislike rubber-forehead aliens but its kinda samey. Star Trek made the setting prettier with Robert Stromberg's gorgeous matt paintings of cities on Bajor and Cardassia and Ferenginar, and I liked the physical model spaceships more. The CGI locations and spaceships of Babylon 5 don't look bad but they're just not appealing to look at. Also, the music tended to be overall forgettable for me. The only track I can remember is that remix of the main theme during the first season.

The Lord of the Rings allusions are pretty strong and yeah, JMS is a big liberal and atheist AFAIK. But I think the reason it's considered a "masterpiece" by fans is because JMS did make an overall story arc that presented a pretty strong narrative across almost five seasons. I think telling a space opera story across multiple seasons of television is what really burned it into the memories of fans. It overshadowed the sometimes so-so acting and scriptwork and other rough edges in the show when comparing it to something more polished like the Star Trek series that came out around the same time.

The morality struggle between the Vorlons and Shadows and concepts of ancient aliens, destiny, and how it all remained relatively consistent I feel, plus the idea of a Galaxy United Nations and most importantly, how amazing the CGI space battles (and sexy starships) looked on screen were other selling points. Aliens in Babylon 5 often looked like aliens. The space battles for the time looked beautiful. The effects budget was smaller then Deep Space Nine but the ships were far cooler looking and the battles way prettier to look at. Ironically... I feel that DS9 Spacebattles aren't as dated however. Watching Babylon 5 battles now... it's pretty dated IMHO. But at the time I think there was a general idea... Babylon 5 starships, aliens and spacebattles were just better aesthetically speaking then the Star Trek knockoff.

As for skipped episodes, it's really interesting. I remember watching through all of The Next Generation a while ago and I might've skipped two or three episodes but overall it was a really good series. When I tried getting into Deep Space Nine... I kinda lost interest about three seasons in. It wasn't bad but... there were a lot more weaker episodes then I remember.... probably with good reason and the weaker episodes in DS9 were even rougher than weaker TNG episodes (first and last seasons excluded).

As for the post-game show content, that was never something that I really thought about too much. I guess I didn't really care about what happened 'after' because the story was basically a self contained saga. Now I watched Babylon 5 Crusade (and the movie that started it off) and that Legend of the Rangers dreck and there was probably potential in exploring the franchise more but I was always satisfied with what I got.

It reminds me of other franchises. Halo. Mass Effect. Wing Commander. :p If you build a setting around a certain nemesis and adversarial relationship, it's hard to move on. I think that Babylon 5 might have more intrinsic potential of course since while the Shadow-Vorlon Conflict was a big deal, the Younger Races were allowed to continue to forge their own destiny now. In Halo and Wing Commander it was so focused on the Humans versus an Alien Empire that what came after just wasn't something that interested people. While in Mass Effect, the stakes would never be as high as the Reaper Invasion.

With that said Babylon 5 also has a unique issue in that JMS did map out the whole saga. Twenty years out and even gave us glimpses up to a million years out so... everyone would just be filling in the gaps before Humans became the new ancient aliens.
 

Husky_Khan

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Has anyone seen John Wick 4 yet?

Oh hey, I just saw it.

If I was you, I'd save your money. I think I have a pretty good idea of your tastes and John Wick is just more of the same. John Wick as a series has amazing action scenes, but every sequel since the first film has kept adding more and more self indulgent details and stylish worldbuilding that just grows more and more ridiculous as they build on it more and more to the point you realize it's all just pointless and they're just throwing plot devices at the wall and giving them ominous names to pass it off as a story.

It's baffling how off track into the ridiculous wilderness the movies have become to the point it just feels pretentious and self indulgent and reminds me of that episode of South Park where they had the Catholic Church featured and in order to change Church Law, the guy had to consult the Holy Document of Vatican Law, then he had to advise the Gegelmek aliens, and then he had to descend to the lower dungeons of the Vatican City which resembled the game Pitfall, and then the Queen Spider showed up.

In the first twenty or thirty minutes of this film, it wiped out or retconned entire swathes of previous lore to make it even more escalatory. Remember the Elder in the third film? Well now there's a Maquis appointed by the High Table. Remember how bad Deconsecration was? Well that's nothing compared to Condemnation. Adjudicator? How about a HARBINGER. What about a blind swordsman? Can't afford Halle Berry again? Get some boring knockoff Black guy with only one Dog who dresses as a homeless person but apparently isn't a member of the Bowery??? Why is there a Tracker here? What is a Tracker? High Table Duel of Single Combat. Ticket torn up? What about mending the ticket? Didn't know about that did you? What about the Coup De Grace?

Half of the plot devices above were literally introduced in the first twenty minutes of the movie.

If you knew what any of these words meant in the context of the movie, there'd be serious spoilers... but it's just words...

During the loooooong scenes of actors hamming it up saying dialogue that sounded as ridiculous as the terminology used in the Wizarding World of Harry Potter, I was verging between appreciating how these actors seemed to be enjoying hamming it up with their theatrical performances to thinking how utterly boring this was and they just need to stop. A lot of people love this nonsense though so... more power to you.

With all that out of the way, the real reason I was bored was because all of the blah blah blah nonsense was taking up important time for action scenes. Long cuts. Steady cameras. Excellent fight choreography. If you come to John Wick just to watch the best action scenes in cinema, then you won't leave disappointed. Except when some random Black guy dog owner who looks Homeless shows up to ruin every scene he's in.

So how about the characters?

Keanu Reeves. Awesome. Donnie Yen. Awesome. Lance Reddick.... Fucking awesome. Hiroyuki Sanada. Awesome.

Ian McShane... ehhh I'm over him.

Scott Adkins... you know... I didn't like his character but he definitely... put his work in.

Clancy Brown? Fine I guess.

Homeless looking Black Guy with Dog who Portrayed Homeless looking Black Guy with Dog. Pfffbbbbtttttt..... spend more and bring Halle Berry back.

Main French Maquis Villain guy? Pretty weak.

Laurence Fishburne. Fucking annoying meme.

So yeah... I guess it's worth it for the action alone. Won't even ruin it by attempting to describe some of the new scenes and settings for all of the amazing kills that took place. And one really nice use of a different camera angle for an amazing longcut towards the end of the movie.

One of the big drawbacks of the film... and this is towards the end and just IMHO. Don't read it if you don't want to be spoiled...

When John Wick died at the end, I was just like "Oh is that it?" His death, for me, landed with a wet fart. Legitimately unfortunate.

I don't think I'll be going out of my way to see any sequels, prequels or spinoffs.
 

Val the Moofia Boss

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After John Wick 2 I was looking forward to seeing the ending. Then the filler movie that was John Wick 3 happened and dampened my enthusiasm. I've heard that John Wick 4 finally gets around to the ending that the second movie promised, but from what I'm reading it wasn't very satisfactory.
 

Husky_Khan

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After John Wick 2 I was looking forward to seeing the ending. Then the filler movie that was John Wick 3 happened and dampened my enthusiasm. I've heard that John Wick 4 finally gets around to the ending that the second movie promised, but from what I'm reading it wasn't very satisfactory.

The action scenes alone might be worth it. Most of the scenes are good, some are just great and at least one is pretty iconic level. Like a masterclass of action. None of them were boring IMHO (like that scene in the Stables in the third move didn't work for me at all). Some action scenes did take a bit long to play out though, towards the beginning, also IMHO. But again, still entertaining because of the long cuts, steady camerawork and amazing and varied fight choreography.

Some of the settings, I feel like... were played out. I've seen so many action scenes played out in cities like Paris for example. Like I'm sure I could name a half dozen, maybe a dozen action movies that have taken place in that iconic city (but John Wick did add new stuff even there). And there's this nightclub scene in Berlin which was cool, but I was reminded of every film ranging from Collateral to xXx.

There was even a DeeJay character who was giving me strong vibes of the radio host lady from The Warriors as well and just didn't add anything. Just another worldbuilding quirk that I remembered that seemed unnecessary.

Donnie Yen and Hiroyuki Sanada were good additions. Sam Adkins did a good job in a very unique role. Everyone else that showed up in previous films... it's MORE of them as those characters... if you liked their characters before, that's good. If not... they get more annoying. :p

I just loath the pretentiousness of the world building and plot devices. Lots of people love these movies so they must feel it adds a lot of flair or style to it. *shrug* YMMV.

They didn't go with baiting another sequel though which is something.
 

Husky_Khan

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I saw two excellent movies the previous two nights...

Mortal Kombat (2021) and Pixels.

These are both films when I first heard about them, I was somewhat intrigued in checking out, but after hearing the terrible reviews and audience response, declined to go see but figured if I could ever see it for free, I'd check it out. Just so happens both were streaming on Tubi so I watched Mortal Kombat one evening, and Pixels the next.

I can happily say, both were just as disappointing as advertised! Shockingly, I think Pixels might actually be a better movie.

So Mortal Kombat. Where do I start? The opening prologue revealing Sub-Zero and Scorpions origins was okay but I realized something amusing. Having just seen John Wick 4 (which starred Scorpion actor Hiroyuki Sanada as well) I just realized all of the fight choreography in Mortal Kombat, I was measuring against that which I had just seen in John Wick and the former did NOT measure up to the latter. And I think it legitimately impacted my impression of this films quality. Another funny thing, Cole Young (the original protagonist of this movie) had an introductory MMA fight to display his fight qualities or whatever. That fight... I thought it was better then the entire opening sequence which had ninjas and samurai and kusarigamas and ice magic.

The acting was subpar. I don't think it was the actors per se who were bad, but it felt like all of the dialogue was done on a first take. The delivery of lines and conversations was so flat and generic. I wanted to like the characters and they had nuggets of being interesting, but the only character who stood out was Kano.

The way they changed the plot somehow was stupider and more convoluted than the video game. Somehow the 1995 Mortal Kombat movie made infinitely more sense then this films wacky story which involved unlocking something called Arcana which only people who have a special Mortal Kombat birthmark have and thus can participate in this tournament. Speaking of which, the tournament doesn't even happen in this movie because Shang Tsung is trying to assassinate all of Earthrealms champions before the tournament starts and it is that which this movie is all about.

As I explain this, there are literally mountains of plotholes that are flooding my poor little brain that I want to ask. Like if Raiden can teleport anyone anywhere, why can't he teleport the fighters to their safespace temple? It's awfully convenient that Cole Young was the direct descendant of Scorpion and turned out to be an MMA fighter. If he was an accountant they'd really be in trouble. How does Cole Young understand Japanese? Why did the monks attach little baby robot arms to Jax after he lost his arms if they didn't know what his Arcana superpowers would be? How did Kano know where the secret Temple to Raiden was? He didn't even know about the significance of his dragon birthmark. Is Arcana updated with technological or did Earthrealm have champions whose Arcana was EMP blasts and rocket flight back in 30BC or whatever? Why is Raiden a fucking bitch through the entire movie?

I could go on... Was there anything I liked about this movie? I guess it was "entertaining." Like a B-movie and you can push out the fact you are witnessing them rape into oblivion a franchise you like for one liners, set design and costume ideas.

Oh the gore was alright, but it was such obvious CGI splatter it made me sad.

Which leads me into my next movie... 2015's Pixels.



Pixels is an Adam Sandler movie that wears video game nostalgia as a cheap skinsuit like some Hannibal Lectar villain. Most of the best parts are shown in the trailer, which when you watch it, at least for me, gave me the sense of like a 80's Video Game version of Independence Day which actually this movie convinced me could've been a legitimately solid concept for a big budget Hollywood film. The concept of this film works, but Adam Sandler being involved in this movie absolutely ruins it.

Adam Sandler's character is likable when he's not stereotypically obnoxious. Josh Gad's fat conspiracy theorist nerd character is a waste of space and his one liners are shit and lazy. "Tell us about the Pyramids under Hoover Dam?" WTF is that shit? Kevin James as President... Nerd was amusing. And uhhh Dwarf guy Tyrion as Fireblaster/mini-Billy Mitchell wasn't too bad actually. The movie is just lazy asf. Even with the same actors playing the same characters, if they actually got a writing and production team that gave a shit, I feel this movie could've been so much better. But it was lazy from the writing to the acting to the humor and the insertion of video game nostalgia.

There were some legitimately cool scenes. The final Alien Invasion actually, in the broad shots with everything going on like tetris blocks annihilated entire levels of buildings and Froggers crushing cars and the like, mini ninjas terrorizing school buses full of kids, Paperboy thwacking people into oblivion with thrown papers, I liked it. It was actually good stuff. It's what the movie should've been.

There was another neat scene (included and ruined in the trailer) where Toru Iwatani attempts to confront a Pac-Man terrorizing New York City which... again... great idea and while what happened drew a chuckle out of me, could've been handled better. The entire Pac-Man scene where they used cars equipped with light based forcefields to hunt down the Pac-Man was a neat idea though and done pretty well.

But overall the movie was literally lazy and worked towards the least common denominator when it came to the humor, nostalgia and everything else. Strangely, it wasn't as stupid as the Mortal Kombat movie except for the ending.

I don't know how to explain this... but I feel I must.

So everytime Earths defenders won a game, the Aliens would reward Earth with a trophy. When they won the first battle it was the Dog from Duck Hunt (which was only in one scene) and for the second victory Q*Bert joined the Hero Squad. Q*bert was pretty lame, acting like a little boy sucking up cheetoes and bouncing on a trampoline but soon helped the heroes access the Alien mothership or whatever... he was like his own character.

SO Josh Gad's character whose a fat nerd Conspiracy Theorist, has lusted over this fictional ninja woman called Lady Lisa from an original game called Dojo Quest. During the Final Invasion, he encounters Lady Lisa who, for some reason, isn't pixelated at all but looks like a sexy swordswoman in a red dress while literally every other alien invader is pixelated. It doesn't make sense but whatever. He professes his love for her since he was a kid, but Lady Lisa doesn't care and they fight for a bit, then he surrenders to her and as she has the blade to his throat, he once again professes his love for her and how he can make her happy blah blah blah in a really bad romantic speech and suddenly Lady Lisa drops her swords and smiles and they kiss and she joins him in fighting the invaders.

The whole scene is stupid (especially since Toru Iwatani did a far better job trying to confront Pac-Man and convince him that he wasn't an evil creation earlier in the movie but whatever) but it gets dumber. After the aliens are defeated, all of the pixel aliens disintegrate and as Josh Gad is celebrating, he suddenly sees with horror that Lady Lisa disintegrates as well. No final good bye (not that she actually says anything) or nod or wave, she's just blows away like Thanos snapped her into oblivion and he's all despairing. I was like "Whoa... that's a thing that just happened. Rough for him."

Then later on the White House lawn where they are celebrating, Josh Gad is sad that his Waifu disintegrated and complains that Q*bert is still here, why isn't Lady Lisa.

Then suddenly, randomly... inexplicably, Q*bert transforms into Lady Lisa and they immediately kiss.

KEEP IN MIND, up to this point Q*bert was his own character and doing typical little kid/boy stuff.

But oh no... it gets more fucked up.

In a final scene dubbed 'One Year Later' it shows Josh Gad coming home to Lady Lisa whose apparently his wife now, and it shows this crib full of baby pixelated Q*berts hopping up and down excitedly now that their Daddy is home...

I... don't remember what happened after that. I think the movie was over but when I woke up I was face down in an alleyway somewhere bleeding out of my eyes.

So yeah... Neither film is unwatchable. But neither film is that good either. But both films actually had some good bits.

Here's the original Pixels short film by the way, it's actually a pretty neat concept and movie. Worth a watch.

 

Husky_Khan

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I learned Sam Peckinpah made a movie called Convoy which I never heard of. It was filmed in 1978 and starred Kris Kristofferson, Ernest Borgnine and Burt Young (Paule of Rocky fame). I was intrigued because some of Sam Peckinpah's films, The Wild Bunch, Major Dundee and Cross of Iron, are some of my favorite films and after stumbling upon this film in his filmography and reading a bit, this film, which is described as an action-comedy was apparently his most successful film commercially and yet really divided amongst the critics. And again... absolutely had never heard of this film.

So naturally I was intrigued.

And thankfully, it was available on a variety of platforms for streaming so I saw it on Tubi.

So the basic gist of the story is Kris Kristofferson is a trucker and he has a bunch of trucker friends who run afoul of a Sheriff portrayed by Ernest Borgnine who harasses them and eventually a situation which the Sheriff escalates erupts into a physical confrontation and things snowball from there. Eventually Kris Kristofferson becomes a bit of a folk hero as he leads a convoys of trucks across the American Southwest, first just wanting to flee the State and the Sheriff (and later State Troopers) but eventually the convoy becomes a symbol of resistance against corrupt governments and law enforcement and extolled a lot of the counter-culture values of the 1970's as well as having a strong streak for liberty and freedom of the individual as well. Basically against the man... in this case the Government.

Overall I really liked the film. It got a bit slow towards the middle and it's not a great film by any means, but it was entertaining and it was really interesting to see a Sam Peckinpah film that was basically a comedy-drama type of deal. It had elements of classic Westerns like from John Wayne era, as well as Peckinpah's own work, And it had elements of road movie comedies and some romantic elements and the like as well. It got a little slow towards the middle and end but overall, I enjoyed it and it aged pretty well. Themes are still relevant and resonant and the characters are fun and interesting and it really capitalizes on the 70's era of big Mack trucks and CB radios and that whole culture as well.

Also... you get to see a US Army M42 Duster in the film as well. Very nice.

The closest film I could compare Convoy to might be Kellys Heroes which was very seventies as well but also blended comedy and drama. Kellys Heroes did it far better and was more of a war/action movie but this was more of a Western anyways so it still worked.

It even had its own soundtrack and songs made for the film which again... reminded me of the songs in Kellys Heroes.



Songwise not my cup of tea but it is kinda toe tapping and brings a smile to my face when I start hearing it.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
Yellow Jackets S2

I seriously thought this series first season was going to be a feminazi shitshow but I was surprisingly wrong.

The show seems to be about genuine horror.

For THIS I am tagging you @Abhorsen since you were interested in it.

I stopped at one third of the movie of Evil Dead Rise. The girl pretending to be a guy only has the voice that is convincing and in some moments it slips through her actual voice The other girl There is probably one subliminal feminist message in a door and there is an absent father.

The last detail though hits home because well my father is suing me and I haven't seen him in real life in like... eight years ? I honestly lost count.

Beginning of Evil Dead Rise is an absolut "banger" or "no cap" as zoomers would say.

Makes me want to buy the board game of Evil Dead 2 .
 

bintananth

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It's the Sunday before Memorial Day, which means it's the biggest day in auto racing and my eyeballs a glued to the TV until after sunset.

Monaco Grand Prix
Indianapolis 500
Coca-Cola 600
 

Husky_Khan

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On Tubi I saw the 1994 action film No Escape starring Ray Liotta, Lance Henriksen, Ernie Hudson and a young Kevin Dillon a few weeks ago. Haven't gotten around to posting about it til now.

It was a pretty good action movie. It had a plot that kind of reminded you of another movie that came out around the same time Fortress, but after the introduction, it took on a more Waterworld and Lord of the Flies type of vibe. The main plotline is that Ray Liotta is a highly trained former Marine who was sent to a private prison for refusing to follow orders to murder innocent civilians in BENGHAZI and killing his Commanding Officer. In the dark future of 2022, private prisons are a big business and this private prison has a secret facility called Absalom where they send their worst offenders.

Absalom as it turns out is an island in the middle of nowhere that no one is even aware of outside of the prison system. The secret facility doesn't have any guards or facilities or anything, prisoners are just dumped their and left to fend for themselves. There are two groups, a bunch of barbarian tribes under some sociopathic leader who kinda reminds me of Dennis Hopper's big bad character in Waterworld and a group of more civilized prisoners who live in a walled community under the wise leadership of Lance Henriksen's character. In the village they are trying to find either a way to escape the island as well as expose its existence to the outside world.

The film was pretty entertaining. I liked it more then Fortress I think (though its been a while since I've seen it) plus it has a lot of interesting action pieces and a few surprisingly emotional beats, though some are pretty cliche. The island, especially the city community, is populated by a lot of interesting characters and the actors do a fine job with their seemingly cliched roles. What's pretty impressive is that for a seemingly generic 90's action movie it has some solid production value.

There are several large sets on the island, lots of extras and a couple large sequences where large numbers of barbarian inmates assault the walled community and you have dozens of extras charging across open plains and storming walls (at night) and lots of hand to hand combat going on with volleys of crossbows going off and everything. It's all pretty well done.

Would recommend if you like films in the vein of Waterworld or Fortress.

 

Husky_Khan

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Also a while ago, and also on Tubi, I saw the 1997 historical drama called Rosewood which was about the 1923 Rosewood Massacre which was widely reported at the time, but then basically memoryholed for the next sixty or seventy years. John Singleton directed this film and despite his reputation from Kevin Smith's Superman story, Jon Peters was the only Producer on this film.

I remember hearing about this film a while back and from the trailers and posters I saw, it looked like some kinda mindless action movie with a historical dressing since it all showed the primary star, Ving Rhames, dueling akimbo pistols while looking all ripped and badass like some contemporary Gangster film but outside of a few bits, it was nothing like that at all.

It was a surprisingly good movie and a visceral, violent one too. It took its time setting up the scene, the context, the settings and locations and characters and then showed what could've been the catalyst and how it quickly metasized out of control. The main story is about Ving Rhames' character, a WWI veteran who is looking to purchase property in Rosewood. He meets the Carrier family, a rather successful Black family in the Black town of Rosewood led by a strong Matriarch who spent much of her time as a Nanny to many White children in her younger years (children who grew up into adults by the time of the film). Jon Vought portrays a White shopkeeper in Rosewood, who some White folks accuse of "growing rich off of selling things to Blacks" and whose cheating on his Wife with a Black employee.

Some of the interesting minor characters include some Black and White Freemasons, a Black Pastor of the local 'Methodist' Church of Rosewood, Michael Rooker as the Sheriff whose up for re-election, and Don Cheadle as the eldest Son of the Carrier family. And Bruce McGill who portrays one of the worst people in the world as one of the Posse leaders.

Long story short, this film (dramatically reinterprets) the events of the Rosewood Massacre where an escaped Black Inmate was alleged to have assaulted (not raped or sexually assaulted) a White woman and who was aided or hiding out in the nearby Black community of Rosewood. As the story carries out, the story is embellished and anger is inflamed White posses rally up and while there are some very visible reservations and doubts and even resistance to the whole affair, the violence quickly spirals out of control. Some of the Black population think they should stand and fight, others think it'll blow over after a few days, and some just want to flee.

There's lynchings. There's gun battles and sieges between Black residents and White posses. As the violence and body count (for both sides) rises, it just grow more and more out of control. Towards the final stages of the film your just wondering how everyone is going to get through their situations. How risky some of the choices and decisions some people are making. And how ruthless or pragmatic people have to be to survive or just are to their neighbors who they were quite amicable with just days ago. There's also class conflicts, both with rich and poor whites, and rich and poor Blacks. Locals and outsiders etc.

Towards the end it suffers from becoming almost too much of an 'action movie' like I feared, but it's a minor issue considering the context of the scene. The main drawback of this film is similar to say Stanley Kubrick's criticism of the amazing Holocaust film Schindlers List. That film was about the Holocaust, but the main plot, in spite of all of the brutality, could still be considered a triumph of Humanity since Schindler saved hundreds of lives, when the Holocaust was actually a tragedy resulting in millions of deaths.

The scale here is far, far, far smaller and the violence more spontaneous and short term, but there is a bit of a triumphalism towards the end of the film which kind of ruins the atmosphere and mood considering all of the events that led up to the end. But it's a minor quibble all considered. Good movie, would recommend.

 

Husky_Khan

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I saw the 2007 movie Vipers starring Hollywood superstars Tara Reid and the guy who played General Hammond on Stargate SG-1 (may Don S. Davis Rest in Peace).

I won't say it was a good movie, but for being a basic B-movie about genetically engineered voracious CGI vipers attacking a peaceful island town in the Pacific Northwest, it was actually pretty entertaining and good for what it was. It actually hit almost ALL of the horror and monster movie tropes that it could without making the movie too cringe. I can't say the acting or script or characters or anything was really good, but it all put in service to making the movie entertaining without being overwhelmingly cringey, narmy or stupid.

And by recycling tropes, I mean recycling tropes. Secret Black Ops trying to contain the situation. Somehow the snakes cut off communications to the rest of the world (like how?). Unruly and rebellious daughter has a character arc. Mysteriously handsome helpful newcomer is the main male protagonist. Stupid extras dying stupidly pointless deaths. So on and so forth. It's all here and more but it works.

 

filipina84

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I saw the 2007 movie Vipers starring Hollywood superstars Tara Reid and the guy who played General Hammond on Stargate SG-1 (may Don S. Davis Rest in Peace).

I won't say it was a good movie, but for being a basic B-movie about genetically engineered voracious CGI vipers attacking a peaceful island town in the Pacific Northwest, it was actually pretty entertaining and good for what it was. It actually hit almost ALL of the horror and monster movie tropes that it could without making the movie too cringe. I can't say the acting or script or characters or anything was really good, but it all put in service to making the movie entertaining without being overwhelmingly cringey, narmy or stupid.

And by recycling tropes, I mean recycling tropes. Secret Black Ops trying to contain the situation. Somehow the snakes cut off communications to the rest of the world (like how?). Unruly and rebellious daughter has a character arc. Mysteriously handsome helpful newcomer is the main male protagonist. Stupid extras dying stupidly pointless deaths. So on and so forth. It's all here and more but it works.


I will check this movie out sometime.
 

Husky_Khan

The Dog Whistler... I mean Whisperer.
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Just saw Lady Bird on streaming. Mainly because I heard of her being announced as a Director for future Chronicles of Narnia films so I decided to give her directorial debut film a watch. Not big on drama films generally but this one was really good. It's a real warm and emotional and funny coming of age film about a young woman growing up in the self described "Midwest of California" Sacramento and follows her journey during her last year in a Catholic High School and her aspirations to escape her lame life there and as she states it go to "a city with culture."

It was really good with the tonal shifts of the film between funny teenage moments and emotionally poignant ones. All of the characters and relationships were really fleshed out and despite it only being a ninety minute long movie, it felt like it had somehow crammed in a miniseries worth of content into it since it covered a whole "year" of really interesting character arc and development.

Any strong social justice messaging I feel that could've been relayed by the film was offset by its ending. Like a lot of good coming of age material, it has a theme of that juvenile petulance that many young people have growing up and part of becoming an adult is realizing you have to mature out of it. The film was good and while none of it is an argument to any adaptions of a Chronicles of Narnia fantasy film, Greta Gerwig I feel does have the talent and ability to bring about the whole coming-of-age storyline out, and maybe even deal with the religious themes in a mature and nuanced way as well if she (and everyone else involved in the film) is willing to do that.

If your interested in coming of age dramedies, I'd recommend giving this film a watch.
 

The Whispering Monk

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The Sound of Freedom


Also this:
The Sound of Freedom Crushes Disney
--And it did it with a bit over half the theaters!
"Sound of Freedom" topped the charts with $14.3 million in ticket sales at 2,634 theaters on the Fourth of July, according to Box Office Mojo. "Indiana Jones" came in second with $11.7 million at 4,600 theaters. Disney's "Elemental," with $2.8 million at 3,650 theaters, was a distant third."
 

filipina84

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The Sound of Freedom


Also this:
The Sound of Freedom Crushes Disney
--And it did it with a bit over half the theaters!
"Sound of Freedom" topped the charts with $14.3 million in ticket sales at 2,634 theaters on the Fourth of July, according to Box Office Mojo. "Indiana Jones" came in second with $11.7 million at 4,600 theaters. Disney's "Elemental," with $2.8 million at 3,650 theaters, was a distant third."

Assuming this will be Harrison Ford's final movie in the Indiana Jones trilogy?
 

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