raharris1973
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What if the Turkish Republic of Oct 1, 1924 is ISOT back to Oct 1,1874 (shortly before the Bosnia-Bulgaria revolts and war with Russia) , or to Oct 1 1824 (during the Greek independence war, before foreign military intervention, but after the first British loan)?
We once before had an Erdogan Turkey, ISOT'ing back 2 centuries or more, predictably a wank.
We also previously had a 1924 Turkey ISOT'ing back 10 years to 1914, which is more the inspiration for this thread:
https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-turkey-1924-isot-to-1914.517906/#post-22700412
Despite the OP's instinct it might be a wank it turned out to be a Turkey screw because lack of recovery from WWI and Greco-Turkish war damage left 1924 Turkey much weaker than 1914 OE despite any future knowledge and higher tech, and its possession of Kars, property of 1914 Russia, automatically puts it in the war with no escape.
How are Turkey's and Ataturk's chances in a 50 year ISOT or a 100 year one? They have more freedom to pursue a strategy of their own choice without the enemy being literally at the home gates posing a threat of extinction. Their tech advantages count for more. They start off with larger imperial buffers, even though Ataturk is ideologically, not so interested in Ottoman universalism, nor Pan-Islam, nor Pan-Turkism.
We once before had an Erdogan Turkey, ISOT'ing back 2 centuries or more, predictably a wank.
We also previously had a 1924 Turkey ISOT'ing back 10 years to 1914, which is more the inspiration for this thread:
https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-turkey-1924-isot-to-1914.517906/#post-22700412
Despite the OP's instinct it might be a wank it turned out to be a Turkey screw because lack of recovery from WWI and Greco-Turkish war damage left 1924 Turkey much weaker than 1914 OE despite any future knowledge and higher tech, and its possession of Kars, property of 1914 Russia, automatically puts it in the war with no escape.
How are Turkey's and Ataturk's chances in a 50 year ISOT or a 100 year one? They have more freedom to pursue a strategy of their own choice without the enemy being literally at the home gates posing a threat of extinction. Their tech advantages count for more. They start off with larger imperial buffers, even though Ataturk is ideologically, not so interested in Ottoman universalism, nor Pan-Islam, nor Pan-Turkism.