EU Dutch Farmers Protest Megathread

Cherico

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When their bosses get tired of them, or rather they've outlived their usefulness, they get put in mass graves. You don't let people like this live after you're done with them, they could turn on you.

In no situation do they win in the long run.

In a conservative victory after they provoked a civil war they get exicuted in mass
in a moderate one they end up behind bars.
In a left victory they get purged.
If they win its the french revolution and then some one rises to purge them just to stop all of the murder.

They dont get to win its how many innocent people will die before they are stopped thats the question.
 

PsihoKekec

Swashbuckling Accountant
We are not talking about far away farms in remote areas, we are talking about farms near the urban areas, where antifas will have full police protection.
 

Robovski

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Anyone hear anything about this railway union strike? Local news is making a fuss out of it because of the potential to hold up grain shipments.
Amtrak has cancelled long range routes. This has been building for a while and has the potential to be hugely disruptive or the US government will crush some more rights. Time will tell.
 

Captain X

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Osaul
What is the dispute causing the strike? The articles I've found don't really go into what's got the unions upset.
 

Robovski

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What is the dispute causing the strike? The articles I've found don't really go into what's got the unions upset.

From: A Massive Rail Strike Looms As Unions Fight For Sick Leave

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Two unions representing freight rail workers say people are being penalized and even losing their jobs for going to doctors' appointments. "
*snip*
"What’s the dispute about?
A collective bargaining agreement has many moving parts to it during negotiations: wages, health care coverage, retirement benefits, paid leave, work rules and more. Those pieces can all be in flux with one another until the moment a deal is reached, but the unions say the disagreement at this point is primarily over leave and scheduling policies.
The unions say workers can end up on call for up to 14 days at a time and face draconian attendance requirements — including losing their jobs for going to the doctor or tending to sick children.

Our members are being terminated for getting sick or for attending routine medical visits.The unions SMART and BLET
In a joint statement, two of the unions at the center of the fight, the International Association of Sheet Metal, Air, Rail and Transportation Workers (SMART) and the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen (BLET), said the rail carriers’ policies amounted to “harassment.”
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Cherico

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From: A Massive Rail Strike Looms As Unions Fight For Sick Leave

"

Two unions representing freight rail workers say people are being penalized and even losing their jobs for going to doctors' appointments. "
*snip*
"What’s the dispute about?
A collective bargaining agreement has many moving parts to it during negotiations: wages, health care coverage, retirement benefits, paid leave, work rules and more. Those pieces can all be in flux with one another until the moment a deal is reached, but the unions say the disagreement at this point is primarily over leave and scheduling policies.
The unions say workers can end up on call for up to 14 days at a time and face draconian attendance requirements — including losing their jobs for going to the doctor or tending to sick children.


In a joint statement, two of the unions at the center of the fight, the International Association of Sheet Metal, Air, Rail and Transportation Workers (SMART) and the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen (BLET), said the rail carriers’ policies amounted to “harassment.”
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oh I know it will suck but I hope this blows up in the dems face.
 

Captain X

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Osaul
Haven't heard anything about this in a while. I hope that doesn't mean that they've tromped in there with the jackboots on these people.
 

Skallagrim

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Haven't heard anything about this in a while. I hope that doesn't mean that they've tromped in there with the jackboots on these people.
Protests have winded down rather a lot, because of the obvious reason I mentioned back when it started: the government can just wait them out. Farmers actually have to work to survive, and they're barely making ends meet as it is. They can't afford the "luxury" of taking time off from work to protest. They had to do it, because the legislation is going to kill them... but they could only keep it up for a while, because otherwise, not working would kill them just as much.

The government, on the other hand, lives off plunder (that is: tax money), forcibly taken from its victims (that is: the taxpayers). It can just wait them out, while suffering no great decline in income at all. So the protests have started to fizzle out, and the government remains untouched. No jackboots needed if you can literally force your critics to starve to death.



On the other hand, the current administration has the lowest popularity rating since such things have been structurally recorded. Yesterday was Prinsjesdag ("Princes' Day"), the third Tuesday in September, on which the annual budget is laid out. For the first time in a very long while, the royal carriage was greeted with jeering and booing by a significant segment of the crowd. It's not just angry farmers, either. People are unable to survive the current economic situation. A considerable proportion of small businesses will go bankrupt during the coming winter. Gas prices as they are now will literally cause people to freeze to death because they can't pay.

The government remains in power, but it is steadily dooming itself. As I also mentioned before: farmers alone can't do anything to the government, and way too many people still have way too much to lose. But that's changing. As things get worse and worse, the proportion of people for whom anything would be an improvement will steadily increase. The government's policies stave off all reform, and allow the establishment to hold onto power with a deathly grip. But that exact course of action makes a violent outcome inevitable. They'll keep it down for a good while longer, by ever more cruel means. But they cannot stop it.

In Dutch (and German) we have a phrase for what the elite is doing (not just here, but globally):

Dancing on the volcano.
 
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