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Him as Sauron ? ROTFLMFAO

Bitch, please. He lacks the fucking charisma for it. Sauron was 'fair'. He was a looker with the charisma of Kennedy, Clinton, Hitler, and several others all put together.

He wormed his way into Numeror. Then worked his wiles to corrupt it from within.
 
Typhonis said:
Him as Sauron ? ROTFLMFAO

Bitch, please. He lacks the fucking charisma for it. Sauron was 'fair'. He was a looker with the charisma of Kennedy, Clinton, Hitler, and several others all put together.

He wormed his way into Numeror. Then worked his wiles to corrupt it from within.
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The mainstream entertainment industry can't do subtle anymore, for the most part; you'll have to settle for a version of Sauron that got into a position of power by exploiting the fact that Numenor was already corrupt, because all white men are evil.
 
Pretty much.

Honestly, Christian Bale would've made a great Sauron. He's attractive enough, charismatic, and was able to play in American Psycho, so he definitely has the range to do an evil character.
 
Terthna said:
The mainstream entertainment industry can't do subtle anymore, for the most part; you'll have to settle for a version of Sauron that got into a position of power by exploiting the fact that Numenor was already corrupt, because all white men are evil.
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That is absolutely canon. Sauron absolutely *did* return to power after his great defeat by the Numenoreans purely by exploiting the fact that Numenor was already corrupt, something that allowed him to slowly go from being brought there as a prisoner to be exhibited like a zoo animal, to ultimately becoming so influential and leading him to his doom.
 
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Urabrask Revealed said:
In a way, it's tragic. They have nothing. Their ancestors have no myths and legends to tell save that they lost a war and were enslaved. So they try to take the stories of others just to have anything at all. It does not excuse them.
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"Melkor spent his spirit in envy and hate, until at last he could make nothing save in mockery of the thought of others, and all their work he destroyed if he could."
 
Urabrask Revealed said:
In a way, it's tragic. They have nothing. Their ancestors have no myths and legends to tell save that they lost a war and were enslaved. So they try to take the stories of others just to have anything at all. It does not excuse them.
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the thing is that Africa has a rich history with much to learn from and admire, but they don’t bother to look into it because they believe the narrative they’ve been sold.
 
Urabrask Revealed said:
In a way, it's tragic. They have nothing. Their ancestors have no myths and legends to tell save that they lost a war and were enslaved. So they try to take the stories of others just to have anything at all. It does not excuse them.
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Shitty thing is, if they properly tried to reconnect with their African roots, there's a wealth of folklore and myth they could access. There's a reason why books like Rage of Dragons (epic fantasy inspired by African mythology. With Dragons) are runaway successes.

But that would be too hard. And African cultures are not friendly in the slightest to progressives.
 
Urabrask Revealed said:
In a way, it's tragic. They have nothing. Their ancestors have no myths and legends to tell save that they lost a war and were enslaved. So they try to take the stories of others just to have anything at all. It does not excuse them.
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It's not even that blacks living outside of Africa are lacking in cool stories about their ancestors, necessarily. American blacks, for example, should be pointing to the likes of the 54th Massachusetts (a regiment of free blacks who fought in the ACW and whose assault on Fort Wagner was made into a movie, 1989's Glory, starring Matthew Broderick, Denzel Washington & Morgan Freeman), self-made businessman and philanthropist Booker T. Washington or peanut farmer & agriculturalist George Washington Carver. Canadian blacks have the Black Loyalists who fought for Britain during the American Revolution in exchange for their freedom and ended up settling in Nova Scotia (with some others migrating further to Sierra Leone post-war). Black British have the likes of freedman & abolitionist Ignatius Sancho or, if they must absolutely have an African British protagonist to look up to, Sara Forbes Bonetta (whose tormentors the Dahomey are the ones being lionized in a new movie starring John Boyega & Viola Davis, ironically).

But no, for whatever reason Afrocentrism is popular instead. Why bother researching these actual black heroes from RL history and trying to popularize them into the mainstream when you can pretend the much better-known Hannibal, Cleopatra and Aristotle were black instead amirite? And people like Nomvete & Amazon Studios insist on blackwashing stuff made by the straight white men they hate so much rather than adapting anything from African history & myth, or creating new IPs based on Africa. It's like if modern Jews obsessively worshiped King David, claimed the kingdoms of Israel & Judah weren't just roadblocks for greater regional powers like Egypt or Babylon but actually the absolute pinnacle of human achievement or outright comprised of quasi-divine superhumans themselves with all sorts of fancy super-advanced tech (of which there exists no actual evidence, because clearly those ancient Jewish Star Destroyers were totally erased by anti-Semites or something), and pretended Cyrus, Heraclius & the Mamluks were Jewish while remaining completely ignorant of the likes of Zerubbabel, Nehemiah and Maimonides.

But what really takes the cake in the context of Amazon's Rings of Power IMO is that Sophia Nomvete herself does not appear to be a descendant of slaves nor did she come from a particularly impoverished background. Amazon Studios' website describes her as being of South African and Iranian heritage - but to my understanding the Dutch imported slaves from elsewhere when they held the Cape Colony and the British abolished slavery soon after taking it from the Dutch, so it seems exceedingly unlikely that her ancestors could ever have been enslaved. At worst they would've labored under apartheid, which although obviously not particularly nice either, is not the same as slavery. And in any case she's clearly far from oppressed in Britain, which gave her the opportunity to become an accomplished theater actress before jumping on board Amazon's project. When it comes to racial outrage artists, it always seems like those who bitch the most & loudest are also the ones with the fewest (or no) reasons to complain in the first place.
 
Hell, you want an area that is possibly rich with culture and legends? Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, and Burma. Look through there for a few stories. Heck, how long is the story Journey to the West? It is from Chinese folklore. Be faithful too that story and yes you may be able to market it in China with no alterations.

Another African American hero. Dorris 'Dorrie' Miller. He earned the Navy Cross on December 7th, 1941.

There is also Frederick Douglass and Harriet Tubman.
 
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The Immortal Watch Dog said:
Ar-Pharazon basically enslaved his cousin in but name and their marriage was taboo and deeply controversial.

She to my knowledge was a kept woman and had no authority because he essentially usurped it.

What the fuck are these retards smoking?
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It is *absolutely* a canonically authentic take that Numenor in that era was a *seemingly* idyllic paradise with only the most subtle hints of what would soon lead to its destruction. If you weren't "in" on the politics of Ar-Pharazon's inner court, you absolutely had no idea that anything was coming other than the *generations long* cultural shift away from friendliness with the elves.

Ar-Pharazon's treatment of his cousin/wife was extremely secret, so as far as anyone outside the inner court knew, she *was* queen regent.
 
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