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The Americas The Tyranny of Trudeau's Canada

Abhorsen

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Well historically for all successful peaceful protests, there is another rival group who are more radical. For mlk You had groups like the Nation of Islam, and for Gandhi there were plenty of more radical Indian nationalists... including the one that formed a Wehrmacht division. The point is either negotiate with the peaceful, or deal with the radicals, it creates a contrast. Because while the people can understand crushing the radicals, it is harder to convince the, about the former
Eh, that's somewhat dubious on them being helpful. They were certainly there, but the value?

To all our Canadian posters; get your money out of the banks and get the fuck out of the country, if you can. Because after the last few years, I cannot find it in me to try to pretend that what Trudeau is doing is likely to be defeatable via traditional non'-violent tactics.
Um, he's right now lashing out at nonviolent protestors, and quite bluntly, serious progress has been made already in just shifting the national conversation. Just give it some time.
 

Bacle

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Eh, that's somewhat dubious on them being helpful. They were certainly there, but the value?


Um, he's right now lashing out at nonviolent protestors, and quite bluntly, serious progress has been made already in just shifting the national conversation. Just give it some time.
None of which seems like it will actually counter the 'Emergency Powers' grab that Trudeau and his ilk seem to want to make permanent.

I mean, the Canadian Parliment OK'd the use of these powers in there latest session, which means they probably won't ben in the mood to rescind said Emergency Powers any time soon; remember 'Two weeks to flatten the curve' and what that has morphed into. I mean the protest is specifically because of the bullshit the Wu Flu 'emergency' allowed Western govs, including Canada/Trudeau, to grab for themselves.

Nothing is more permanent than a 'temporary' gov policy, as the saying goes.
 

Battlegrinder

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So, with the talk of violence and the like, I'd remind the thread of TOS Rule 3F, which explicitly bars encouraging or inciting violence. At present, the staff have elected to interpret that rule in the vein of the US standard for incitement, rather than as a generic "no saying anything that implies violence is OK", but that interpretation is subject to change.

In the interest of avoiding that change and allowing a wider field of topics for discussion, I am encouraging you all to think very carefully when it comes to what you say regarding this current situation.
 

Abhorsen

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None of which seems like it will actually counter the 'Emergency Powers' grab that Trudeau and his ilk seem to want to make permanent.

I mean, the Canadian Parliment OK'd the use of these powers in there latest session, which means they probably won't ben in the mood to rescind said Emergency Powers any time soon; remember 'Two weeks to flatten the curve' and what that has morphed into. I mean the protest is specifically because of the bullshit the Wu Flu 'emergency' allowed Western govs, including Canada/Trudeau, to grab for themselves.

Nothing is more permanent than a 'temporary' gov policy, as the saying goes.
Everyone knew that the Parliment would pass it, that's not in question. What is in question is both the court case as well as the next election.
 

Bacle

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Everyone knew that the Parliment would pass it, that's not in question. What is in question is both the court case as well as the next election.
You are assuming that the Canadian courts aren't effectively in on it too, and that the next election will 'fix' things, when it is a ways off, with plenty of time for Trudeau and his ilk to go full jackboot and do everything to make their powers permanent.

The best thing that could happen would be provinces deciding to try to split away in response to this; not much else is likely to have much effect now that the Emergency Powers are in play.
 

killerofa23

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You are assuming that the Canadian courts aren't effectively in on it too, and that the next election will 'fix' things, when it is a ways off, with plenty of time for Trudeau and his ilk to go full jackboot and do everything to make their powers permanent.

The best thing that could happen would be provinces deciding to try to split away in response to this; not much else is likely to have much effect now that the Emergency Powers are in play.
That’s assuming that you can get dissolution through parliament and not get told to fuck off
 

Bacle

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That’s assuming that you can get dissolution through parliament and not get told to fuck off
I think Parliament, in endorsing the Emergency Powers, has destroyed it's own legitimacy with a lot of Canadians.

The provinces deciding to go independent on their own accord, and ignoring Parliament completely, is the best way to get away from Trudeau's/Ottawa's madness.

Canada as we knew it is dead; the only question is if some parts of the nation decide to go their own way, rather than stay attached to a zombie that is going full authoritarian and socialist at the same time.
 

killerofa23

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I think Parliament, in endorsing the Emergency Powers, has destroyed it's own legitimacy with a lot of Canadians.

The provinces deciding to go independent on their own accord, and ignoring Parliament completely, is the best way to get away from Trudeau's/Ottawa's madness.

Canada as we knew it is dead; the only question is if some parts of the nation decide to go their own way, rather than stay attached to a zombie that is going full authoritarian and socialist at the same time.
That assumes most Canadians are willing to not go along with the status quo and are unhappy if a us president had invoked emergency powers it would have meant riots in the streets and a lot more powerful stuff happened while canada emergency powers seem to result In people going eeeehhhhh what ever (I don’t know for sure not Canadian)
 

Bacle

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That assumes most Canadians are willing to not go along with the status quo and are unhappy
True, I made that assumption based on how much support the Freedom Convoy got before the Emergency Powers came into play, as well as the way certain provincial govs actually did start meeting the truckers demands, even if Ottawa hadn't.
 

Sobek

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This is just more proof; cops and soldiers are mostly loyal to their paychecks, not their nation's Constitutions.

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TheRomanSlayer

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We do have several options in this case: secession, or flight. Problem is, the US might not be as better as we hoped, and the rest of the Five Eyes club are heading in the same direction. I hate to say this, but we may need to learn some Spanish if we are hoping to move to Mexico. In my case, going back to the Philippines is a no go because our President there is a vax fanatic ( who threatened Filipinos with jail time if they refused to get vaccinated, and Philippine jails are notorious for being unsanitary as a form of psychological torture)

If we’re going for the secession route, it is time to throw some political support behind the Maverick Party, and your provincial party that advocates for the same thing, for Canadian members in here.
 

Carrot of Truth

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We do have several options in this case: secession, or flight. Problem is, the US might not be as better as we hoped, and the rest of the Five Eyes club are heading in the same direction. I hate to say this, but we may need to learn some Spanish if we are hoping to move to Mexico. In my case, going back to the Philippines is a no go because our President there is a vax fanatic ( who threatened Filipinos with jail time if they refused to get vaccinated, and Philippine jails are notorious for being unsanitary as a form of psychological torture)

If we’re going for the secession route, it is time to throw some political support behind the Maverick Party, and your provincial party that advocates for the same thing, for Canadian members in here.

Isn't the president of the Philippines also a nut job who participates in vigilante style executions on a regular basis?
 

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