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Bet you dollars to cents the Vaccous will hate the Atlas citizens's guts, and be right in doing so.


Anyway they wouldn't be completely justified as it was Team RWBY and Winter who made Vacuo a target to flee to, so It wasn't by the people's choice.
 
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Zachowon

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Alright, fuck it. That was good. All the payoffs in this episode were actually built up beforehand and I can't complain about the protagonists using their noodles after months of complaining about them being retarded. They very cleverly cut the Gordian knot and actually used all the resources at their disposal. I still hate Emerald and hope she falls into the eternal abyss.

Now for the unintended consequence.

1. Atlas is toast. Not just the city, but the kingdom as a political entity will not survive this fiasco. That's not our heroes' fault, the major Grimm incursion and Ironwood burning the leadership to ash did that, but Remnant's geopolitical situation was just scrambled like an egg in a nuclear reactor.

2. For some reason we're sending all these refugees to Vacuo. From a Doyalist perspective this makes sense since this is the only kingdom we haven't visited yet, but if I recall the world-building correctly Vacuo is the poorest and least stable of the kingdom's outside of Menagerie. Not a great place to evacuate an entire metropolis' worth of refugees. (I cynically look forward to the subtle and even-handed depictions of refugees and immigrant issues in the next season)

3. Ironwood, his loyalists, and his bomb are still out there. That's going to haunt our heroes for certain.

4. The whole world knows about magic, or at least portals, now. There's not a lot of easy scientific explanation for the void road. There's going to be a lot of questions asked and our villains will undoubtedly find a way to utilize this themselves. As the genie guy said, you kids are either brilliant or foolish.

5. And finally we now have two relics in the open. The end of the world is closer than its even been. Cinder is taking competence lessons from Watt and we only have so long of a break before Mother Boringest pulls herself back together.

Its pretty clear that next season is going to be our Vacuo adventure followed by a return to Vale and the final relic. The question is just what the road getting there will look like. There's enough time to salvage what's left of the series, but the RT team will need to write a lot of episodes on the same level as this one and episode 10 to make that work.

Also I will give them 100 free points if they bring Phyrra back. I really don't care about the narrative cohesiveness of this series anymore than the writers do, so can I get something out of that?
Yeah no they arnt bringing Pyrrha back. The voice actress said she wouldn't play Pyrrha unless they basically made her like Salem and made her evil Grimm version. I can assure you there will be no brining Pyrrha back.

I do know we are gonna have a good amount of hatred between Vacuo people and the people of Atlas/Mantle
 

Bear Ribs

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Also, the show is called RWBY. The four girls are the core marketing material of the show, in the title acronym, the color theming, and on the posters. They're not going to have a show advertised and called after a team of four girls, but only actually have three. Unless they do some weird nonsense where they have another character fill in that spot thematically or something.
I wouldn't be so sure of that. My own prediction is that the show is going to kill off both Yang and Weiss, then Sun Wukong will join the team with the two surviving girls. Team RBS will let them cash in on a lucrative Arby's advertising contract.
 

Doomsought

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One thing I would change is Ironwoods semblance. Instead of something that that is better used as a character trait, I'd give him the ability to detect threats. He intuitively knows just how much danger there is in a situation. The problem is that his semblence can be fooled by feints and Salem is smart enough to be able to use it against him.

Bringing in the Atlas army to vale would have been prescient on his part, and would have been the right move if it weren't for his robot army having shit security. If he could sense that Vale would be hit by an invasion, and Salem knew that he would be able to, suddenly the whole plan makes sense on both side.

It would also fit his personality perfectly, he is a man that deals with danger by facing it head on. The ultimate superpower he could wish for is the ability to always know where the danger is so that he can put himself between it and the innocents.
 

Zachowon

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THEYBFUCING DID IT.... THEY KILLED penny again!!!!! Fucking hell!!!

holy...holy shit. What and Episode...
this is definitely an amazing episode that pulls on the feels. And gives us a teaser of next volume. Next volume is gonna have our main cast and Jaune and Neo away from everyome else and on on island in the middle of the ocean. This...this is gonna be interesting!!

Winter is the Winter Maiden!!!

jjst...HOKY SHIT!@@ Vine saved everyone!!
 

Free-Stater 101

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THEYBFUCING DID IT.... THEY KILLED penny again!!!!! Fucking hell!!!

holy...holy shit. What and Episode...
this is definitely an amazing episode that pulls on the feels. And gives us a teaser of next volume. Next volume is gonna have our main cast and Jaune and Neo away from everyome else and on on island in the middle of the ocean. This...this is gonna be interesting!!

Winter is the Winter Maiden!!!

jjst...HOKY SHIT!@@ Vine saved everyone!!
😭😭
I forgot that the next episode released today! I just literally spoiled myself!
 

Terthna

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THEYBFUCING DID IT.... THEY KILLED penny again!!!!! Fucking hell!!!

holy...holy shit. What and Episode...
this is definitely an amazing episode that pulls on the feels. And gives us a teaser of next volume. Next volume is gonna have our main cast and Jaune and Neo away from everyome else and on on island in the middle of the ocean. This...this is gonna be interesting!!

Winter is the Winter Maiden!!!

jjst...HOKY SHIT!@@ Vine saved everyone!!
Local Man Man Who Thought He Had No Fucks Left To Give About A Shitty Web Cartoon Loses Last Additional Bit Of Fucks He Didn't Even Know He Still Had

I mean, kudos to you for being able to find enjoyment is something so horrifically terrible, but I've said it before, and I'll say it again; fuck this show. Fuck it right in the sphincter with a rusty chainsaw.
 

Zachowon

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Local Man Man Who Thought He Had No Fucks Left To Give About A Shitty Web Cartoon Loses Last Additional Bit Of Fucks He Didn't Even Know He Still Had

I mean, kudos to you for being able to find enjoyment is something so horrifically terrible, but I've said it before, and I'll say it again; fuck this show. Fuck it right in the sphincter with a rusty chainsaw.
Dude.
Why watch do you watch it if you domt care for it?

At least this episode was well done, and not badly animated, not a huge mess. It has decent writing compared to other episodes
 

Terthna

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Dude.
Why watch do you watch it if you domt care for it?

At least this episode was well done, and not badly animated, not a huge mess. It has decent writing compared to other episodes
I don't; I haven't watched a full episode of this show since season 3. The most I've seen of seasons past that have been from reviews and critiques of the show. I dropped RWBY for a number of reasons, but if I had to pick just one thing that pissed me off the most, it would be the fact that they killed off Penny, Pyrrha, and Torchwick (with chopping off Yang's arm running a close second). Killing off characters is something I have always hated to see.
 

Zachowon

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I don't; I haven't watched a full episode of this show since season 3. The most I've seen of seasons past that have been from reviews and critiques of the show. I dropped RWBY for a number of reasons, but if I had to pick just one thing that pissed me off the most, it would be the fact that they killed off Penny, Pyrrha, and Torchwick (with chopping off Yang's arm running a close second). Killing off characters is something I have always hated to see.
Oh trust me.
I hate killing of characters.
What I seem to have to get across when people say this.
Pyrrha was planned to die from the day the hired Jen Brown to voice her.
That aspect of volume 3 was always planned ahead of.
That's right, it was the great Monty's plan to kill of Pyrrha.
In fact, from what I gather having talked to cast and crew. Vol 1 through 3 were basically all of Monty's plans.

The show had its up and downs. 4 and 5 were....
The worst of the series with 6 7 and definitely 8 being a major improvement.

I get character deaths are never wanted, but woth a few exceptions, they have improved on how they go about it.

I am done with my argument fir it. Just wanted to put my two cents in.
 

DarthOne

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I don't; I haven't watched a full episode of this show since season 3. The most I've seen of seasons past that have been from reviews and critiques of the show. I dropped RWBY for a number of reasons, but if I had to pick just one thing that pissed me off the most, it would be the fact that they killed off Penny, Pyrrha, and Torchwick (with chopping off Yang's arm running a close second). Killing off characters is something I have always hated to see.
See, to me, the issue wasn't the killing off of or maiming of characters. But it was the failure to follow up on it meaningfully. There's no real examination of the characters reacting to the Fall of Beacon, the death of people they knew or Yang losing her arm. It doesn't carry near the weight it should.

What we do get is rushed and half-assed- not to mention the various retcons that got crammed in to appeal to a vocal minority of shippers. Not to mention the fact that JNR takes exactly the wrong lesson from Pyrrha's death and that Penny gets brought back...only to kill her off again. There's the hack-job villainization for Ironwood because of reasons, Cinder's rather lackluster back story. The fact that Salem is literally Ozpin's evil ex-wife with the motivation of a bad shonen villain, with the former being something I remember people JOKING about as a possibility prior to that reveal and the Emerald's half-ass 'redemption'.

The show just kept adding more and more characters to the main team instead of focusing more on the ones we already had. Why even add Maria when you could have had Qrow (or Ospin, if you really want to include Oscar) teaching RWBY about the Silver Eyes? Why not have Ruby actually have to struggle and practice to learn how to use them instead of just being a super-weapon that naturally conforms to her existing personality? Why even have JNR stick around past V5? Sending them to Vacuo to help guard the Relic there would have been a great way to meaningfully get them out of the story. And I could go on for days about how the characterization of the main characters has been dulled and smoothed, removing much of what made them interesting to watch.

On a final note, one of my biggest issues was how instead of the characters getting stronger as the series goes on, the world just got weaker so they'd have an easier time. Not to mention the hilariously bad issue RWBY-the-show-has with show-don't-tell. And, at least to me, that when the show should have used the opportunity to wow us as the setting opened up and we left Beacon, Remant feels... empty and bland.
 

Zachowon

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See, to me, the issue wasn't the killing off of or maiming of characters. But it was the failure to follow up on it meaningfully. There's no real examination of the characters reacting to the Fall of Beacon, the death of people they knew or Yang losing her arm. It doesn't carry near the weight it should.

What we do get is rushed and half-assed- not to mention the various retcons that got crammed in to appeal to a vocal minority of shippers. Not to mention the fact that JNR takes exactly the wrong lesson from Pyrrha's death and that Penny gets brought back...only to kill her off again. There's the hack-job villainization for Ironwood because of reasons, Cinder's rather lackluster back story. The fact that Salem is literally Ozpin's evil ex-wife with the motivation of a bad shonen villain, with the former being something I remember people JOKING about as a possibility prior to that reveal and the Emerald's half-ass 'redemption'.

The show just kept adding more and more characters to the main team instead of focusing more on the ones we already had. Why even add Maria when you could have had Qrow (or Ospin, if you really want to include Oscar) teaching RWBY about the Silver Eyes? Why not have Ruby actually have to struggle and practice to learn how to use them instead of just being a super-weapon that naturally conforms to her existing personality? Why even have JNR stick around past V5? Sending them to Vacuo to help guard the Relic there would have been a great way to meaningfully get them out of the story. And I could go on for days about how the characterization of the main characters has been dulled and smoothed, removing much of what made them interesting to watch.

On a final note, one of my biggest issues was how instead of the characters getting stronger as the series goes on, the world just got weaker so they'd have an easier time. Not to mention the hilariously bad issue RWBY-the-show-has with show-don't-tell. And, at least to me, that when the show should have used the opportunity to wow us as the setting opened up and we left Beacon, Remant feels... empty and bland.
You mean how "everyone got weaker" for our heros only to get thier assess kicked
 

DarthOne

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You mean how "everyone got weaker" for our heros only to get thier assess kicked
And when was that again? Not in V4, 5, 6 or 7. This is RT trying far too late to course correct and even then I bet it will not stick. No more then Yang ‘dying’ will.
 

Zachowon

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And when was that again? Not in V4, 5, 6 or 7. This is RT trying far too late to course correct and even then I bet it will not stick. No more then Yang ‘dying’ will.
They got thier asses kicked plenty of times before this time
 

Bear Ribs

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I've said before that the winning strategy to making a good Star Wars film is to have George Lucas do the worldbuilding and have an intern with a cattle prod zap him if he tries to touch the dialogue. I feel pretty much the same about Monty Oum who was a treasure when it came to tightly scripted fight scenes but should have been kept well away from plot writing, it just wasn't his strong suit.
 

Zachowon

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I've said before that the winning strategy to making a good Star Wars film is to have George Lucas do the worldbuilding and have an intern with a cattle prod zap him if he tries to touch the dialogue. I feel pretty much the same about Monty Oum who was a treasure when it came to tightly scripted fight scenes but should have been kept well away from plot writing, it just wasn't his strong suit.
Miles and Kerry and a few of the other writers are pretty good.
They sometimes listen to the FNDM instead of the actual fans. Aka Bumblebee.

But Pyrrhas death was planned from day 1. Jen Briwn confirmed this.
 

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